SterioDesign Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 and we thought Lou was bending the rules back then..... this is like....... next level sh!t lol 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, SterioDesign said: cue the inevitable "For the Pens it's fine but if the Devils would have done it the league would have rejected it #fvckbettman #devilsvstheworld" 3, 2,1... 1 hour ago, Anhkheg said: IMHO, then this is typical cap circumvention and the league should not have allowed it. Gary Bettman wouldve been on Lou's case if the Devils did anything like this. Tadaaaaaa !!!!!!! Edited February 24, 2018 by SterioDesign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevils1214 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 Welcome to 2018 where the salary cap doesn't mean anything because you can just have another team take the hit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunninWithTheDevil Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 27 minutes ago, SterioDesign said: and we thought Lou was bending the rules back then..... this is like....... next level sh!t lol 5 hours ago, SterioDesign said: cue the inevitable "For the Pens it's fine but if the Devils would have done it the league would have rejected it #fvckbettman #devilsvstheworld" 3, 2,1... You make literally no sense 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, RunninWithTheDevil said: You make literally no sense Interesting. Why's that? Wasn't that something we were all super proud of that Lou was always able to find a way to push the rules in our favour and praised him for that? It was part of his genius in getting Stevens for example. But nothing he did was ever... this complex and to the level of that deal IMO. It's not a knock on Lou. It's equivalent to say "And we thought Crosby was fast and skilled... but here's that McDavid kid now" And then i said SOMEONE would obviously claim something specific... and sure enough, it happened lol How am i not making sense here? Edited February 24, 2018 by SterioDesign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonDreads Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 I don’t understand why everyone is so upset about this? It’s called being creative to fit a piece you want under your cap. Ottawa gets a 1st and a prospect, Vegas gets compensated for retaining some salary, and Pittsburgh gets their center. Don’t crucify the Pens for getting creative here because this is perfectly legal. Get over it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 10 hours ago, Daniel said: There were reports of Shero asking about OEL earlier this season. Chayka says he wants to sign him to an extension, but that's really just a way of saying he wouldn't be traded at the deadline. So if you sign Carlson, you can trade for OEL where Severson is the main piece. Don't analytics people love Severson? Yeah, "analytics people" is an enormous hive mind where everyone is of the exact same opinion. C'mon Daniel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 (edited) rumours that San Jose jumped in the race too. A Hedman / Karlsson or Karlsson Burns duo would be scary to face in the playoffs According to him we're not involved though Edited February 24, 2018 by SterioDesign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonDreads Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 30 minutes ago, SterioDesign said: rumours that San Jose jumped in the race too. A Hedman / Karlsson or Karlsson Burns duo would be scary to face in the playoffs According to him we're not involved though The Sens can’t afford to trade Karlsson to Montreal or Toronto, If they do they may as well fold the team and move to Quebec. They fight with those teams for fans anyways and are overcrowded by those markets, they can’t trade arguably the most popular player they’ve ever had to one of their biggest rivals, it’s fanbase suicide in that market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, CommonDreads said: The Sens can’t afford to trade Karlsson to Montreal or Toronto, If they do they may as well fold the team and move to Quebec. They fight with those teams for fans anyways and are overcrowded by those markets, they can’t trade arguably the most popular player they’ve ever had to one of their biggest rivals, it’s fanbase suicide in that market. Well im 99.5% sure Karlsson wouldnt go to MTL in this case, they'd likely be the outside team like Vegas was yesterday. Maybe getting Ryan or something or retaining salary Edited February 24, 2018 by SterioDesign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonDreads Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 10 minutes ago, SterioDesign said: Well im 99.5% sure Karlsson wouldnt go to MTL in this case, they'd likely be the outside team like Vegas was yesterday. Maybe getting Ryan or something or retaining salary Ah okay that makes sense then, never know with Montreal though guys are wild cards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Martyisth3b3st said: There’s broken records and then there’s SD. lol Hi pot meet kettle you gonna post 45 posts in a row t'night if Kinkaid let in one goal? Of course you are. Probably all in caps too obviously, cause you gotta make sure we know you're mad typing it. i mean... JUST in case someone doesn't know you don't like him already. Juuuuuuust in case. Again, i like you bud. But if you're going to call me out on something there's something going back your way. Edited February 24, 2018 by SterioDesign 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Daniel Posted February 24, 2018 Author Share Posted February 24, 2018 10 hours ago, Marshall said: Yeah, "analytics people" is an enormous hive mind where everyone is of the exact same opinion. C'mon Daniel. Well, the stats say what they say, and there aren't that many to choose from. Theoretically, that's the point of analytics; to objectively evaluate players using data rather than eye tests, reputation and the like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 Does Derek Jeter have a stake in VGK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 2 hours ago, Daniel said: Well, the stats say what they say, and there aren't that many to choose from. Theoretically, that's the point of analytics; to objectively evaluate players using data rather than eye tests, reputation and the like. Nobody in the online hockey stats community has any idea what Chayka thinks, he ran a stats company whose results were proprietary. Given that they were proprietary, I think it's a safe bet that they value different things than the ones you can get for free online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted February 25, 2018 Author Share Posted February 25, 2018 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Nash is likely heading to Boston, it's not rumours anymore. Both sides admitted trying to make a deal work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antiquated Colorado Rockie Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 9 hours ago, sokar said: seems like an overpayment by the Islanders. Davidson was actually on waivers earlier this season, Edmonton claimed him from the Habs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Would love to get in the middle of one of these salary retention deals here if that's going to be the new thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagknife Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 (edited) Boston is a bunch of idiots: 1st, prospect, Belesky and Spooner for that chipmunk chokeartist. EDIT: Add a 7th too Good luck to whoever is going for Kane... Edited February 25, 2018 by jagknife Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lateralous Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, jagknife said: Boston is a bunch of idiots: 1st, prospect, Belesky and Spooner for that chipmunk chokeartist. Yeah, seems like a lot for a guy on 40 point pace. I guess they really wanted to dump that Belesky contract going forward. Is Nash even a upgrade over Spooner at this point? This feels a lot like Ottawa spending a ton to “upgrade” from turris to Duchene...obviously to a lesser degree here Edited February 25, 2018 by Lateralous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagknife Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Just now, Lateralous said: Yeah, seems like a lot for a guy on 40 point pace. I guess they really wanted to dump that Belesky contract going forward. Still seems like overpayment I guess I forgot how crappy Belesky was but Spooner and a prospect and salary retained AND picks... good god. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lateralous Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 1 minute ago, jagknife said: I guess I forgot how crappy Belesky was but Spooner and a prospect and salary retained AND picks... good god. Agreed. I was actually in the process of updating my post because Spooner is pretty good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagknife Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Lateralous said: Agreed. I was actually in the process of updating my post because Spooner is pretty good. And Spooner is protected (RFA) this summer. I get Boston is clearly going for it, but that's a ton to give up for a guy like Nash. He's not going to be asked to be THE guy up there, but geeze.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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