Neb00rs Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Daniel said: He was already convicted and served his time. So as far as the law is concerned, he did it. The fact that his wife is apparently recanting or offering support for his application to have the conviction expunged ordinarily would not require the judge to do anything, unless there's something in California law that requires a judge to do so if, for example, the defendant needs it to find gainful employment. Interesting, but I'd imagine the judge would take it into account at least, specifically in terms of the fact that the conviction on his record would hurt both him and his wife. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satans Hockey Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 When it comes to him this should be enough to warrant not allowing him to play in the NHL ever again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Neb00rs said: Interesting, but I'd imagine the judge would take it into account at least, specifically in terms of the fact that the conviction on his record would hurt both him and his wife. Every state is different, but I know where I practice (New York and New Jersey) for any crime that is something more than drug possession or petty theft, it's pretty difficult to get an expungement, especially if we're talking about a violent crime. It's not uncommon for women to stay with men who abuse them. What she's doing now is trying to get him a pardon or an expungement, and I imagine it's so he can more easily gain entry into Canada. Whether he'll end up getting it is something I can't answer. Edited June 26, 2018 by Daniel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, Satans Hockey said: When it comes to him this should be enough to warrant not allowing him to play in the NHL ever again... Yeah, I guess this is important, despite not having seen the photos ourselves, most people don't just bleed from a tap. That said, it's clear Voynov is a POS, my original comment wasn't necessarily pertaining to his case but to these cases in general. The real issue here, as Daniel has seemed to zero in on, is whether or not the conviction is expunged and whether or not having the conviction on record will prevent him from being able to travel to Canada and thus, participate in NHL games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aitchmack Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 18 minutes ago, NJDevils1214 said: On a lighter note, I saw this on TSN lol Well if that doesn't persuade JT to put pen to paper maybe it'll make his wife pull rank? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Daniel said: I believe that an electrician who beat up his wife still has a right to earn a living when he’s done his time. So hard for me to see it differently with Voynov. 1 hour ago, Satans Hockey said: If you or me get arrested and convicted of beating up someone or for something else entirely there are tons of jobs out there that will absolutely not even look at your resume let alone hire us. Professional sports should be the same way. That's just my take on it. These combined kind of explain my position. I don't favor an outright ban, especially for a guy convicted who serves his time, because its extra punishment beyond what he was sentenced to. But, if the NHL takes no position and then none of the teams want to employ him because of his record, I haven't got a problem with that either. You live with the consequences of your actions, whether legal or otherwise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Caps showing their appreciation of Devante Smith-Pelly's playoff heroics by not extending him a qualifying offer. https://www.nhl.com/news/devante-smith-pelly-among-players-to-not-receive-qualifying-offer/c-299276174 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevils1214 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 16 minutes ago, Aitchmack said: Well if that doesn't persuade JT to put pen to paper maybe it'll make his wife pull rank? If she is into dude's like that I'd say John is in trouble. 3 minutes ago, mfitz804 said: Caps showing their appreciation of Devante Smith-Pelly's playoff heroics by not extending him a qualifying offer. https://www.nhl.com/news/devante-smith-pelly-among-players-to-not-receive-qualifying-offer/c-299276174 Sorry DSP, it's just business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadevils Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Duclair, Rieder and Sheahan all offer the speed to fit "fast, attacking and supportive" and also have some upside. Would sign any one of them to upgrade Gibbons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 HELLO JOHNNY...COME AND PLAY WITH US... COME AND PLAY WITH US... YOU CAN BE A SHARK FOREVER... FOREVER... AND FOREVER... At least this wouldn't have been as creepy... 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 1 hour ago, NJDevils1214 said: On a lighter note, I saw this on TSN lol "Come play for us, if the hockey thing doesn't work out, you're all set for a career in gay hillbilly porn". 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, mfitz804 said: "Come play for us, if the hockey thing doesn't work out, you're all set for a career in gay hillbilly porn". Cotton-Eyed Joe is now playing in my head on an endless loop...thanks a lot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 12 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said: Cotton-Eyed Joe is now playing in my head on an endless loop...thanks a lot! Yeah, but funkier and heavier on the wah... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 How did I miss this gem? 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 How did I miss this gem? This is great lmfao. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 JT Miller 5-year extension in Tampa. I wonder if that means they’re out on Tavares.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mfitz804 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Apparently the Blues have reached out to hometown product Pat Maroon about "coming home". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NJDevils1214 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said: Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Is he 5.25m good? I didn't see him as that caliber of player, but then again these dudes make more every year. Just now, MadDog2020 said: Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk fvck OFF ST.LOUIS!! HE LIKED NEW JERSEY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleBallofHate Posted June 26, 2018 Author Share Posted June 26, 2018 Not sure if I like him for $5 million+ (possibly)... taken from a Todd Cordell article: http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=93612 Craig Custance of The Athletic recently provided updates on several notable free agents and ranked them by their expected costs. Here is what he had to say about Maroon, who was in the $5 million+ range: Pat Maroon, F, New Jersey Devils – There were six teams showing significant interest at the start of the interview process for Maroon and that number is expected to increase. Don’t count out New Jersey here though, he was a good fit after being acquired by the Devils and both sides expect to touch base at some point this week once the market takes shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 8 minutes ago, mfitz804 said: Apparently the Blues have reached out to hometown product Pat Maroon about "coming home". 7 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said: Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk That;s going to be a hard one to turn down. In any case, I liked Maroon and would welcome him back but won't lose any sleep over him leaving, if he does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS-SS Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 5 hours ago, SterioDesign said: I absolutely disagree with this completely. Anything against PK Subban that I've seen wasn't race related. It's all about his actions and about his humongous ego/need for attention that was causing friction with almost everyone except the fans that obviously wasn't dealing with him on a daily basis. Insane amount of videos, comments, reports are all pointing in the same direction. Except a lot of people just can't accept it and are willing to stick their head in the sand about it and pretend it's the crazy medias in MTL or a race thing. (that being said the medias in MTL are indeed crazy, but they liked Subban a LOT tho, if anything they were protecting him more than hurting him) Obviously there's always a few legit racists that will make comments, that's sadly inevitable but PK's problems had nothing to do with the colour of his skin. Put his 2 brothers in MTL and i can assure you there wouldn't be any problems with them. I disagree. I doubt that a lot of the things he is accused of would be a problem if he wasn't black. It's not the main problem, but it was an underlying one that I personally could feel in a lot of those ''old-fashioned'' guys like Tremblay, Bergeron, and others every time I saw them speaking about him. Every time they target a player they obviously accuse him of stupid things, but Subban's case was the worse I saw. Of course, nobody would come out and straight up say ''because he's black'', but IMHO it was there and detectable in many of their tirades about him. I mean at some point, when you constantly accuse somebody of being a bad team player, but the majority of your complaints about the guy is either backed by no arguments at all or by very very retarded ones then what's going on? (At least with somebody like Galchenyuk they came up with some half-assed journalist stories that had a hint of credibility despite being retarded..but Subban? It was a free for all. You could say anything without backing any of your stuff with evidence or logic and they would fire up the torches and go to town on him). They would sh!t on him for being fiery on the ice and ''too shiny'' because he somehow celebrates a goal with a lot of emotions (bc he just wants to win) and then turn around and tell us the problem with this team is that it needs a tough and competitive attitude. I mean let's just be clear. The organization itself didn't display any racist attitude, It was just the journos, but this club has a very very low breaking point once the media starts complaining about something regardless of what it is and if they should listen to them or not. Inside a couple of months, you will notice the effect of the media crap on the team and usually inside a year or two the player is gone. Ps: Here we are two years after the trade. What's up with P.K. in Nashville? Apart from the mouthwash thing in the final last year, I don't think I've heard anything negative about him and while I don't know personally any Predators fans it seems like they love him down here. I don't think the Preds fans would change a thing about that trade if they could go back in time. Also, just make a couple of Google searches about Tremblay (guy who was the most vocal about Subban and the same retard that drove Patrick Roy out of Mtl and into Colorado). The general consensus on forums and comment sections about the guy is that he's a racist. That's how people read into his comments. The same thing could be said about at least a couple of other leaders of the Subban crusade. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 That;s going to be a hard one to turn down. In any case, I liked Maroon and would welcome him back but won't lose any sleep over him leaving, if he does. If he has a chance to make $5 million a year and live in his hometown with his son, how can he turn that down, and how could anyone blame him for not turning it down? I’d fully expect big Pat to take that offer.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devlman Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 39 minutes ago, Neb00rs said: That;s going to be a hard one to turn down. In any case, I liked Maroon and would welcome him back but won't lose any sleep over him leaving, if he does. Agreed. If he leaves then bring in JVR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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