Zubie#8 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Tuomo Ruutu is getting 3.8M per year to play 10 minutes a game. That's my wtf??? issue.And in my opinion he has been playing some great hockey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostonNala370 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 (edited) What a MESS. Thanks LOU!!!!!!! Edited November 30, 2014 by BostonNala370 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgeControl Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Elias is on what can only be called an awful contract. The only thing you can do with him is hope he doesn't become a complete detriment while he's here, but it's not looking good. Some guys age seemingly overnight...just no way to tell who that's going to happen to. he fell apart this year, but its not like we have two or three more years of him. next year we bite the bullet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 (edited) Yeah, that to me is one of the good signs with the team is that all the miserable forwards are gone soon, and the guy they committed a lot of money to is playing well. The bad news is that there isn't much to replace them in the system. Edited November 30, 2014 by Triumph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 I wonder how many of the Albany AAAA-types will get looks as the forwards currently here are dealt or let go. I'm not expecting much from Boucher, but at least we'll start finding out about him soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fsu1852 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/is-it-time-for-nj-devils-to-fire-peter-deboer-172927329.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter Thought this was a decent article Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HellOnICE Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 It's pretty much what a lot of us are saying. Greg is right on with that one. Even he says the Gelinas and Larsson thing - but Merril (when healthy) and Severson have played a ton. Gelly just isn't pick it up what they need him too. It's not just the coaching, given we had two very different style Ds (Albelin and Stevens) teaching him. Larsson has played pretty well for the most part and has earned what he's getting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caron14 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 but the coaching staff id a problem. i see worst lineup doing better (calgary as an example) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hystyk28 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 There's 100% no accountability on this team and I put that on Pete. He doesn't hold anyone accountable for their mistakes (unless they're Swedish or a rookie) so a lot of guys don't seem to hold themselves accountable. It's always "we deserved better" and "we didn't get the bounces", even Patty has been spouting quotes like this lately. That's unacceptable and it starts with the atmosphere that DeBoer has created. He'd rather find silver linings in getting a point than be upset about losing the second one. He's gotta go and someone who won't just accept these constant blown leads and lacks of effort for periods at a time has to be brought in. Do I think it will help us this season and get us to the playoffs? Probably not. But the culture needs to change before these young guys start spouting the same nonsense about "bad luck" and what they "deserved". How do you know what happens in the room? A good coach doesn't put his players on blast to the likes of Chere or TG. This is a team of 3rd liners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Brown Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 How do you know what happens in the room? A good coach doesn't put his players on blast to the likes of Chere or TG. This is a team of 3rd liners. This team has a lot more 2nd liners than 3rd liners. Granted they're only decent 2nd liners at best, but 2nd liners regardless. NOTE: THE NUMBERS IN THE PARENTHESES IS NOT A PREDICTION. IT'S JUST A ROUGH ESTIMATE OF THEIR POINT TOTALS ASSUMING THEY PLAY ROUGHLY A FULL SEASON. 1st line players - Elias (50 points), Jagr (50 points), Cammalleri (65 points) 2nd line players - Havlat (40 points), Brunner (40 points), Ryder (40 points), Clowe (40 points), Henrique (55 points), Zajac (45 points) 3rd line players - Josefson (20 points), Ruutu (35 points) 4th line players - Zubrus (15 points), Gionta (10 points), Bernier (20 points), Tootoo (10 points) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWW Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 How do you know what happens in the room? A good coach doesn't put his players on blast to the likes of Chere or TG. This is a team of 3rd liners. They don't need to be put on blast, but I'd at least like a bit of honesty. Ever listen to a Mike Babcock postgame? When asked about a certain player's performance, he'll give an honest assessment and will say a guy needs to be better or where his game needs improvement or where he was lacking in that game. It's refreshing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dan 56 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 They don't need to be put on blast, but I'd at least like a bit of honesty. Ever listen to a Mike Babcock postgame? When asked about a certain player's performance, he'll give an honest assessment and will say a guy needs to be better or where his game needs improvement or where he was lacking in that game. It's refreshing. I think that's more of an organizational strategy as opposed to Deboers alone. It seems most Devils coaches are like that. I'd have to look at Deboers stuff from Florida. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Eco Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 (edited) I think that's more of an organizational strategy as opposed to Deboers alone. It seems most Devils coaches are like that. I'd have to look at Deboers stuff from Florida. Can't blame them. Our media aren't exactly aggressive. What do our players have, maybe 4-5 people max. to answer to in the locker room every night, 2 employed by the same TV channel and 2 employed by the same newspaper? They're avoiding making any unnecessary bad press around the league-wide media (no one's really talking about "the Devils doing bad", we're floating under the radar still), unfortunately at the expense of some of us diehards who want answers and heads to roll. Edited December 1, 2014 by DJ Eco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Can't blame them. Our media aren't exactly aggressive. What do our players have, maybe 4-5 people max. to answer to in the locker room every night, 2 employed by the same TV channel and 2 employed by the same newspaper? They're avoiding making any unnecessary bad press around the league-wide media (no one's really talking about "the Devils doing bad", we're floating under the radar still), unfortunately at the expense of some of us diehards who want answers and heads to roll.If Pete ever winds up in Toronto like it was rumored, he'll have some serious adjusting to do when it comes to media scrutiny after being here and in Florida. Talk about night and day.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HellOnICE Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 This team has a lot more 2nd liners than 3rd liners. Granted they're only decent 2nd liners at best, but 2nd liners regardless. NOTE: THE NUMBERS IN THE PARENTHESES IS NOT A PREDICTION. IT'S JUST A ROUGH ESTIMATE OF THEIR POINT TOTALS ASSUMING THEY PLAY ROUGHLY A FULL SEASON. 1st line players - Elias (50 points), Jagr (50 points), Cammalleri (65 points) 2nd line players - Havlat (40 points), Brunner (40 points), Ryder (40 points), Clowe (40 points), Henrique (55 points), Zajac (45 points) 3rd line players - Josefson (20 points), Ruutu (35 points) 4th line players - Zubrus (15 points), Gionta (10 points), Bernier (20 points), Tootoo (10 points) The problem is Elias is a 3rd liner/depending on who he's playing with 2nd liner. Camm is a first line guy, but we need two true first line players above him. Jagr should be a 2nd line guy. So should Zajac. Havlat, Clowe, Brunner, Ryder are all 3rd liners at best. We only have 1 first liner, and that's Camm. Yeesh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldply123 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 This team has a lot more 2nd liners than 3rd liners. Granted they're only decent 2nd liners at best, but 2nd liners regardless. NOTE: THE NUMBERS IN THE PARENTHESES IS NOT A PREDICTION. IT'S JUST A ROUGH ESTIMATE OF THEIR POINT TOTALS ASSUMING THEY PLAY ROUGHLY A FULL SEASON. 1st line players - Elias (50 points), Jagr (50 points), Cammalleri (65 points) 2nd line players - Havlat (40 points), Brunner (40 points), Ryder (40 points), Clowe (40 points), Henrique (55 points), Zajac (45 points) 3rd line players - Josefson (20 points), Ruutu (35 points) 4th line players - Zubrus (15 points), Gionta (10 points), Bernier (20 points), Tootoo (10 points) The above is nonsensical and not even remotely rooted in reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Eco Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 If Pete ever winds up in Toronto like it was rumored, he'll have some serious adjusting to do when it comes to media scrutiny after being here and in Florida. Talk about night and day.... He would've been out on the street a long time ago in a place like Toronto, Montreal, or even New York; probably prematurely, but yeah, here in New Jersey is the other extreme now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 He would've been out on the street a long time ago in a place like Toronto, Montreal, or even New York; probably prematurely, but yeah, here in New Jersey is the other extreme now.Can you imagine some of the line-up decisions he's made in a place Toronto or Montreal? Lmfao, sports-talk radio in those places would HAMMER him 24/7/365. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Can you imagine some of the line-up decisions he's made in a place Toronto or Montreal? Lmfao, sports-talk radio in those places would HAMMER him 24/7/365. Pretty much this. I mean the Devils have their games broadcasted on a radio station whose 1-6:30PM guy doesn't even acknowledge the sport of hockey and when asked says "no one cares about hockey" or "too early to talk about hockey" until at least one of the local teams makes it to the 2nd round of the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerrydevil Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 (edited) I wonder how many of the Albany AAAA-types will get looks as the forwards currently here are dealt or let go. I'm not expecting much from Boucher, but at least we'll start finding out about him soon. He really should be with the big club, getting his chance now. Gotta find out about him, even though we may not like the answer to the Reid Boucher question! Edited December 1, 2014 by Jerrydevil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Can you imagine some of the line-up decisions he's made in a place Toronto or Montreal? Lmfao, sports-talk radio in those places would HAMMER him 24/7/365. Therrien and Carlyle make worse decisions on a regular basis and they have both been extended for a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 And in my opinion he has been playing some great hockey. That's not the point. He is playing 10 minutes a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgeControl Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 If im edmonton I might take a flyer on pete. yeah hes supposedly a vet type coach but he's also a disciplined Xs and Os system type. they need a grass roots system with a track record to bring them to competitive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zubie#8 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 That's not the point. He is playing 10 minutes a game.Yes and I added hes been playing very well and needs to be in the top six on this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 That's not the point. He is playing 10 minutes a game. He's playing more now. It seems like he has surpassed Zubrus on the depth chart. He just doesn't play much at anything that isn't 5 on 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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