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How about this scenario

Sign Jake Gardiner

Trade Vatanen for Kapanen, Nathan Horton's Contract & 2nd in 2020.

 

We can retain some of Vatanen's contract if that gets the deal done!

 

 

 

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11 minutes ago, CMONPETEYD said:

How about this scenario

Sign Jake Gardiner

Trade Vatanen for Kapanen, Nathan Horton's Contract & 2nd in 2020.

 

We can retain some of Vatanen's contract if that gets the deal done!

 

 

 

I would much rather trade Vatanen and our 2020 first for Trouba with an extension.  I don't think Kapanen is that good.

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3 minutes ago, Daniel said:

I would much rather trade Vatanen and our 2020 first for Trouba with an extension.  I don't think Kapanen is that good.

I'm not convinced by Kapanen either.

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1 hour ago, MadDog2020 said:

Which makes it even more hilarious that they’ve managed to win only one Cup since the Roosevelt Administration.

Yes, by “worked for them” I meant in terms of people wanting to go there.

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1 hour ago, CMONPETEYD said:

How about this scenario

Sign Jake Gardiner

Trade Vatanen for Kapanen, Nathan Horton's Contract & 2nd in 2020.

 

We can retain some of Vatanen's contract if that gets the deal done!

 

 

 

Trade Vatanen, sign Jake Gardiner.... is the goal to be a worse team in 2020, because this would be a great way to achieve that.

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I’m not sure I would trade Vatanen. I think he’s more the kind of guy you want to try to get. 

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14 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

I’m not sure I would trade Vatanen. I think he’s more the kind of guy you want to try to get. 

The problem is that he'll be 29 when you have to give him a new contract and he'll likely be in high demand next year and he knows it.  There are some guys you overpay for, but I'm not sure he's it.  So I'd much rather package him in a deal for a better and younger player like Trouba.

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2 hours ago, mfitz804 said:

I’m not sure I would trade Vatanen. I think he’s more the kind of guy you want to try to get. 

im not sure this is the answer either, you trade him and you create another hole where we already have an issue. I understand some are saying to package him to get basically a replacement .. but we should try to keep him its not like he is that old and he's one of if not the best Dman on the team right now. 

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I'd totally be down for Trouba. He's 25, good solid player. Looking for about 7.5m i'd say based on what i heard.

Not sure it could happen though.. he'd be on the right side... vatanen and severson are already there in the top 4... i dont really see any of those 2 playing the bottom pairing... i guess we could/should trade vatanan as it would be an upgrade say we throw a pick along with it and a prospect... but i doubt the Jets would make that deal

Then we'd still need another solid D i feel... 

Greene - Trouba

Butcher - Severson

Smith - Carrick

Mueller - Santini

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4 hours ago, SterioDesign said:

I'd totally be down for Trouba. He's 25, good solid player. Looking for about 7.5m i'd say based on what i heard.

Not sure it could happen though.. he'd be on the right side... vatanen and severson are already there in the top 4... i dont really see any of those 2 playing the bottom pairing... i guess we could/should trade vatanan as it would be an upgrade say we throw a pick along with it and a prospect... but i doubt the Jets would make that deal

Then we'd still need another solid D i feel... 

Greene - Trouba

Butcher - Severson

Smith - Carrick

Mueller - Santini

We have to be in that conversation. 

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Re: contract $ amounts given out - you can’t think of it in terms of dollars - think of everything as percentage of cap. 

$6MM for a mid level guy sounds like a lot but against an $83MM cap is 7% of the cap. 

Thats how agent and players are looking at the AAV. 

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Dave Pagnotta was on NHL Network Radio, just dropping bombs. 

Talk of Patrik Laine not wanting to be in Winnipeg and will explore all options, including any potential offer sheets. 

Mitch Marner wants Auston Matthews money, no less than $10 million. Feels they will settle on a 3-year, $30 million contract.

Doesn’t feel Patrick Marleau is a fit for the Los Angeles Kings, but the Kings still think they are contenders and won’t commit to a rebuild.

The Vancouver Canucks are looking for a big named defenceman not named PK Subban. They feel like Subban has attitude issues.

The Dallas Stars, New York Rangers and New York Islanders will all be in on Erik Karlsson this summer.

The New York Islanders and Los Angeles Kings will be in on Artemi Panarin this summer.

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Re:  Marleau, though it’s impressive as hell that he didn’t miss a single regular season game throughout his 30s, he really doesn’t have much left in the tank...he finished last season with just 37 points.  I could see him starting to get healthy-scratched next year.  

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8 hours ago, SterioDesign said:

Dave Pagnotta was on NHL Network Radio, just dropping bombs. 

Talk of Patrik Laine not wanting to be in Winnipeg and will explore all options, including any potential offer sheets. 

Mitch Marner wants Auston Matthews money, no less than $10 million. Feels they will settle on a 3-year, $30 million contract.

Doesn’t feel Patrick Marleau is a fit for the Los Angeles Kings, but the Kings still think they are contenders and won’t commit to a rebuild.

The Vancouver Canucks are looking for a big named defenceman not named PK Subban. They feel like Subban has attitude issues.

The Dallas Stars, New York Rangers and New York Islanders will all be in on Erik Karlsson this summer.

The New York Islanders and Los Angeles Kings will be in on Artemi Panarin this summer.

Ah the good ole wannabe-GQ editor using everyone else's rumors, and a few of his own, to pretend he cares about the actual sport again and not simply what the players are wearing.

And LOL at the Kings, they swung and missed on Kovy and are almost in as bad of shape as us, yet they dont want to rebuild. Good luck with that.

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9 hours ago, SterioDesign said:

Dave Pagnotta was on NHL Network Radio, just dropping bombs. 

Talk of Patrik Laine not wanting to be in Winnipeg and will explore all options, including any potential offer sheets. 

Mitch Marner wants Auston Matthews money, no less than $10 million. Feels they will settle on a 3-year, $30 million contract.

Doesn’t feel Patrick Marleau is a fit for the Los Angeles Kings, but the Kings still think they are contenders and won’t commit to a rebuild.

The Vancouver Canucks are looking for a big named defenceman not named PK Subban. They feel like Subban has attitude issues.

The Dallas Stars, New York Rangers and New York Islanders will all be in on Erik Karlsson this summer.

The New York Islanders and Los Angeles Kings will be in on Artemi Panarin this summer.

I wonder how much it would take to get Laine?  

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14 minutes ago, glenwo2 said:

I wonder how much it would take to get Laine?  

That won’t be a cheap endeavor, either in the contract you’d have to give him, or what you’d have to give up for him.

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2 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said:

That won’t be a cheap endeavor, either in the contract you’d have to give him, or what you’d have to give up for him.

Yeah I guess you're right but out of curiousity, It would be interesting to know what it would take, regardless....

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Did Shero fall asleep at the wheel here or is he not impressed at all by this kid?

I did hear he was battling injuries but still... he wore a bow tie to the draft, that’s the kind of character you can’t pass on.  ;)

 

That was yesterday so I guess he did go unsigned which is odd to say the least.

I wonder if he gets drafted again?  

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11 minutes ago, glenwo2 said:

Yeah I guess you're right but out of curiousity, It would be interesting to know what it would take, regardless....

Oh definitely. If you’re Ray, you always make the call and see. 

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49 minutes ago, glenwo2 said:

I wonder how much it would take to get Laine?  

At least 3 names to would not want to give.

He’s a stud RW, young, and an RFA. 

Who’s in the mood for a controversial blockbuster suggestion, assuming the $$ can be worked out:

Hall, Zacha, Vatanen, a 2nd and another pick for Trouba and Laine. 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

At least 3 names to would not want to give.

He’s a stud RW, young, and an RFA. 

Who’s in the mood for a controversial blockbuster suggestion, assuming the $$ can be worked out:

Hall, Zacha, Vatanen, a 2nd and another pick for Trouba and Laine. 

 

 

YIKES!    Sad thing is that THAT is what it would take, too.  

HARD PASS for me.

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55 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

At least 3 names to would not want to give.

He’s a stud RW, young, and an RFA. 

Who’s in the mood for a controversial blockbuster suggestion, assuming the $$ can be worked out:

Hall, Zacha, Vatanen, a 2nd and another pick for Trouba and Laine. 

 

 

Hall is better than Laine even when you take Laine’s age into account.

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5 minutes ago, Daniel said:

Hall is better than Laine even when you take Laine’s age into account.

Says who??

In addition to being younger, he’s still under team control since he’s an RFA. You don’t even know if Hall plans to re-sign here. 

Laine doesn’t have injury issues, and has never not been a 30 goal scorer in his three years. And he’s a right wing. And has size. 

If I offered you Laine for Hall straight up, not knowing if Hall would re-sign here, you wouldn’t take him??

What if July 1 comes and goes, and we go into the season with Hall on a walk year with no extension, still no?

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