Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Subban’s Devils days hopefully end around the deadline at best, and this offseason at worst. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgeControl Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 lets remember subban is a 3rd pairing D man. with 14 pt and a 0 p/m. no prob with a cheap extend. just pair him with a big who can clear the front of the net, jaros??? its our second pairing that will need help, who will help seigenthaler get the puck exited. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicomo Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 50 minutes ago, EdgeControl said: lets remember subban is a 3rd pairing D man. with 14 pt and a 0 p/m. no prob with a cheap extend. just pair him with a big who can clear the front of the net, jaros??? its our second pairing that will need help, who will help seigenthaler get the puck exited. He has 20 PIM. And it honestly should be A LOT more with all the slew foots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagknife Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 14 minutes ago, Nicomo said: He has 20 PIM. And it honestly should be A LOT more with all the slew foots. That’s my biggest issue with PK, if he’d stop being such a dirty fvckboi, I’d be perfectly okay on a short low cost deal, but he averages a slew foot every 10 game which puts literally everyone else at risk cause he won’t fight for himself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagknife Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Well Reid Boucher is in a little bit of trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted January 15, 2022 Author Share Posted January 15, 2022 31 minutes ago, Nicomo said: He has 20 PIM. And it honestly should be A LOT more with all the slew foots. Pretty sure p/m was plus/minus. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted January 15, 2022 Author Share Posted January 15, 2022 10 minutes ago, jagknife said: Well Reid Boucher is in a little bit of trouble. What a fvcking loser. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicomo Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 9 minutes ago, mfitz804 said: Pretty sure p/m was plus/minus. That makes more sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted January 15, 2022 Author Share Posted January 15, 2022 34 minutes ago, Nicomo said: That makes more sense. Your premise wasn’t wrong, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guadana Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 4 hours ago, Nicomo said: You will like when he goes to taste the market and sign big deal with or without us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevils1214 Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Just now, Guadana said: You will like when he goes to taste the market and sign big deal with or without us. I agree. The way he talks sometimes it also seems like he's ready for a change in scenery. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 I just hope Subban goes and sign a huge deal with the Rangers and sh!t the bed there 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted January 15, 2022 Author Share Posted January 15, 2022 16 minutes ago, MB3 said: push him off a boat in the ocean and drive away isn’t that how he wound up in the KHL?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titans04 Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 3 hours ago, Guadana said: You will like when he goes to taste the market and sign big deal with or without us. sure, would love for him to tie up a ton of cap space on somebody else's roster. Get something for him at the deadline and move on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 The only reason i'm kind of glad were out of the playoffs picture is cause then we won't have to hear arguments about how we should keep Subban around cause "once you're in you never know" No. We know. We know damn well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 1 hour ago, SterioDesign said: The only reason i'm kind of glad were out of the playoffs picture is cause then we won't have to hear arguments about how we should keep Subban around cause "once you're in you never know" No. We know. We know damn well. We still have a very long shot at the playoffs We need a goalie. Imagine how different things would be if we had a goalie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 33 minutes ago, CarpathianForest said: We still have a very long shot at the playoffs We need a goalie. Imagine how different things would be if we had a goalie It still doesn't mean we should stick with Subban because of it. Don't get me started on that lol If we can get something for him. We have to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, MB3 said: what would those arguments be? “once you’re in, you never know — he might give up a game winner because he’s slow and untalented!” you and i fight about everything but it’s impossible to say you didn’t warn us about him. i wonder if even you pictured he’d be THIS useless. To be honest and hell i've been trying to be fair and gave him credits when it was due (its just rare). But when we traded for him. I did say that we'd have to deal with a LOT of sh!t. (i meant the terrible positioning, bad defensive play, selfish plays, slewfoot, dirty plays, bad decisions, potential problem in the locker room, etc etc) but i did say that he should at least bring a decent amount of production and that we needed that, so wtv. So even the one thing i tried to give him credit for he failed me lol At the very least it doesn't appear like he was a problem in the locker room. But then.. was he really or we just didn't see it cause the Devils reporting is basically inexistant and i think we know that even if something happen that the team wouldnt let Amanda or wtv report it. So who knows, i,ll give him the benefit of the doubt that he finally matured a bit since i have no proof that he was indeed a problem. Contrary to a mountain of proofs in MTL lol Edited January 15, 2022 by SterioDesign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, MB3 said: by all accounts he’s been nothing but an excellent locker room presence and strong member of the community since being brought here, that’s undeniable. the on-ice stuff has been atrocious. i did edit my post to say something about that haha And yes, it sure appears like that. But again, it also "appeared" like that in MTL say we wouldnt have seen all the other stuff and heard from people close to him reporting about it. I think that we have a very very young thing helps. The shenanigans that subban pulled off constantly appeared to be mostly stuff that would get on veterans nerves. Edited January 15, 2022 by SterioDesign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted January 15, 2022 Author Share Posted January 15, 2022 14 minutes ago, MB3 said: what would those arguments be? “once you’re in, you never know — he might give up a game winner because he’s slow and untalented!” you and i fight about everything but it’s impossible to say you didn’t warn us about him. i wonder if even you pictured he’d be THIS useless. Once you’re in, you never know, someone may need to sweep the leg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titans04 Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 when you're getting paid 9M and performing at the level he has been on the ice the least you can do is be a model citizen in the locker room. I'd be the happiest guy in there every day too. Has there ever been a Devils dman harder on the end boards and glass with their shot in the team's history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted January 15, 2022 Author Share Posted January 15, 2022 1 minute ago, titans04 said: when you're getting paid 9M and performing at the level he has been on the ice the least you can do is be a model citizen in the locker room. I'd be the happiest guy in there every day too. Has there ever been a Devils dman harder on the end boards and glass with their shot in the team's history. Imagine if he didn’t fan on half of his attempts… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 40 minutes ago, MB3 said: what would those arguments be? “once you’re in, you never know — he might give up a game winner because he’s slow and untalented!” you and i fight about everything but it’s impossible to say you didn’t warn us about him. i wonder if even you pictured he’d be THIS useless. Also i was not projecting lol This is a conversation i had on here not long ago. I forgot who but someone made the argument that if we were close that we had to keep him. Forgot the argument, but one was made lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDfan1711 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 1 hour ago, CarpathianForest said: We need a goalie. Imagine how different things would be if we had a goalie I don't buy this at all. The league is vastly different than it was 20-30 years ago when there were goalies who were stalwarts night in and night out, making it easy for their team and the guys in front of them. (Guys like Brodeur, Roy, Hasek, Belfour, Joseph, etc). Now, the league is full of guys who "1A/1B" simply because they aren't good enough to be the clear cut number one. In recent memory the only guys who I can think of that are even close to that would have been Luongo who's retired now, and Fleury who is close to it. Outside of them, the talent at the goaltending position has been extremely poor over the last 10-20 years, which is why you see guys who basically hop from team to team every couple years. Look at the stats for this season. These are the top 10 goalies in save % with a minimum of 10 games played so far this season: Igor Shesterkin (he looks like he could be great, but too early to tell) Jack Campbell (he was terrible on LA, that's why they let him go) Tristan Jarry (he had quite possibly one of the worst playoff rounds I've ever seen last year or the year before when he got smoked in the first round) Frederik Anderson (the very definition of a mediocre goalie) Juuse Saros (average at best) Illya Sorokin (same as above, though he's younger and probably has more potential) Jacob Markstrom (average) Andrei Vasilevskiy (ok, he's great and actually had a lot of playoff success) Johnathan Quick (used to be good, now he's getting old) Sergei Bobrovsky (same as Quick, to a lesser extent) Literally the only goalies in the entire league that scare me or when I see them on the schedule I say "Ok, it's gonna be tough to score tonight" are Vasi and Shesterkin. Everyone else is average and I feel like we have a fair chance of scoring against them. And that's saying something because our team isn't exactly full of offensive juggernauts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted January 16, 2022 Author Share Posted January 16, 2022 If we “had a goalie” we still wouldn’t be playing defense in front of him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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