Daniel Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Central stop for all news and opinions on the issue, from spottings of visits to the Tumi store to sit downs with Lou at Panera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 I fully expect this thread to crack 100 pages before it is all said and done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Does this include any info shared with us by CAA/Rock security guards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundstrom Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 i would put odds at him re-signing at 70%. over/under on contract 10.1 years/ $70.1MM. I am taking the under on both. should he leave, the devils will need to bring in a top 6 forward that is not currently on this team. i am not comfortable with henrique-zajac-kovalchuk and zubrus-elias-clarkson as our two top lines, espeically when you consider that the devils have three forwards under team control after next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeCups Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 i would put odds at him re-signing at 70%. over/under on contract 10.1 years/ $70.1MM. I am taking the under on both. should he leave, the devils will need to bring in a top 6 forward that is not currently on this team. i am not comfortable with henrique-zajac-kovalchuk and zubrus-elias-clarkson as our two top lines, espeically when you consider that the devils have three forwards under team control after next year. Sign me up for 8 years $56 mill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted June 12, 2012 Author Share Posted June 12, 2012 Does this include any info shared with us by CAA/Rock security guards? I would be sorely disappointed if there weren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundstrom Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 oh by the way, since this is what this thread is for, a rumor that i heard which i will lend credence to (i wouldn't post stuff i don't believe) is that parise was offered 7/49 at the trade deadline this year. he was prepared to accept it but his agents essentially would not let him. their argument was that the devils would absolutely up that offer and he'd get at least 6 offers greater on 7/1. they basically said that if he wants to sign with the devils, he will have every opportunity to at a better offer so why not wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grcenter47 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 If my memory serves me correct but didnt the Kovy thread have ninjas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck the Duck Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 oh by the way, since this is what this thread is for, a rumor that i heard which i will lend credence to (i wouldn't post stuff i don't believe) is that parise was offered 7/49 at the trade deadline this year. he was prepared to accept it but his agents essentially would not let him. their argument was that the devils would absolutely up that offer and he'd get at least 6 offers greater on 7/1. they basically said that if he wants to sign with the devils, he will have every opportunity to at a better offer so why not wait. I can definitely believe that. The agents and NHLPA have and/or will push him hard to go to FA on 7/1/12 and take the greatest offer in order to push the bar even higher for future FA's. Brodeur oftens talks about he got a lot of pressure to do the same from the NHLPA when making his deals, but he didn't have an agent and didn't care what the heads of the NHLPA thought. He wanted to play for a winner and knew he'd have to take less than market value for his services to make that happen. I see Zach getting around $7.5 million per over 7-8 season on the open market. I think Lou would go there for Zach, but the real question is can ownership? In the end, nobody really knows whats going to happen and we're not likely to find out until July 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 I can definitely believe that. The agents and NHLPA have and/or will push him hard to go to FA on 7/1/12 and take the greatest offer in order to push the bar even higher for future FA's. Brodeur oftens talks about he got a lot of pressure to do the same from the NHLPA when making his deals, but he didn't have an agent and didn't care what the heads of the NHLPA thought. He wanted to play for a winner and knew he'd have to take less than market value for his services to make that happen. I see Zach getting around $7.5 million per over 7-8 season on the open market. I think Lou would go there for Zach, but the real question is can ownership? In the end, nobody really knows whats going to happen and we're not likely to find out until July 1. Well, I think if he was offered 7/49 at the deadline (with the ownership issues still prevelant in the backround), I think the money is there, and would be there to go maybe 8/56 if that's what it takes. The cash infusion from this run should definitely help a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aylbert Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 "Zach, do you consider Minnesota or New Jersey your home?" "Probably Minnesota, I grew up there and played a lot of hockey there. I'm only at the beginning of my career in New Jersey, I think I'll have a much different answer 10 years from now". He said "I'm only at the beginning of my career in New Jersey". That doesn't sound like someone who's leaving. I think that's us putting more thought into his statement than he did. I don't believe he is trying to send cryptic messages to fans. I think he honestly meant something along the lines "I'm still young and haven't been here forever... ask me in 10 years and my story might change". Ask me what my home town is... I'll publicly question if its Bensalem, PA (where I own a house), or Toms River, NJ (where I grew up). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justdo3043 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 If my memory serves me correct but didnt the Kovy thread have ninjas? yes but to clarify a little it was hot lady ninja's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dan 56 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 If my memory serves me correct but didnt the Kovy thread have ninjas? We must pace ourselves!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim777 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 We must pace ourselves!! LOL, but I agree The Kovy thread was beyond epic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 The Kovy thread was so epic that people were getting Holy Ghost power from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils Pride 26 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 FORWARDS Zach Parise ($7.500m) / Travis Zajac ($3.888m) / Ilya Kovalchuk ($6.667m) Patrik Elias ($6.000m) / Adam Henrique ($0.854m) / Dainius Zubrus ($3.400m) Alexei Ponikarovsky ($2.000m) / Jacob Josefson ($0.900m) / David Clarkson ($2.667m) Ryan Carter ($1.000m) / Stephen Gionta ($1.000m) / Steve Bernier ($1.000m) Eric Boulton ($0.663m) DEFENSEMEN Anton Volchenkov ($4.250m) / Marek Zidlicky ($4.000m) Henrik Tallinder ($3.375m) / Andy Greene ($3.000m) Adam Larsson ($0.925m) / Mark Fayne ($3.000m) Peter Harrold ($0.750m) / GOALTENDERS Martin Brodeur ($4.000m) Johan Hedberg ($1.250m) BUYOUTS Colin White ($1.000m) / Trent Hunter ($0.667m) ------ CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter) (these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion) SALARY CAP: $70,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $63,754,166; BONUSES: $262,500 CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $6,545,834 I think this is a good starting point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Pig Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 yes but to clarify a little it was hot lady ninja's I think we should change it up a little. If it was hot lady ninjas in the Kovy thread, it should be hot lady something else in the Parise thread. Just my $0.02. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghdi Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 The Kovy thread was so epic that people were getting Holy Ghost power from it. It had ninjas after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justdo3043 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 I think we should change it up a little. If it was hot lady ninjas in the Kovy thread, it should be hot lady something else in the Parise thread. Just my $0.02. maybe we should do a poll... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelastonealive Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 I think we should change it up a little. If it was hot lady ninjas in the Kovy thread, it should be hot lady something else in the Parise thread. Just my $0.02. Well then the obvious answer is sexy pirates. But that will all come in due time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfsharkalligatorhalfman Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 (edited) oh by the way, since this is what this thread is for, a rumor that i heard which i will lend credence to (i wouldn't post stuff i don't believe) is that parise was offered 7/49 at the trade deadline this year. he was prepared to accept it but his agents essentially would not let him. their argument was that the devils would absolutely up that offer and he'd get at least 6 offers greater on 7/1. they basically said that if he wants to sign with the devils, he will have every opportunity to at a better offer so why not wait. If true, good job by his agents looking out for him. This gives me hope. If he really wants to stay in NJ, I think 10 year / 70 mill is too little for Zach personally, but it depends on if Lou budges when Zach's agents tell him the Islanders are offering 10 year, 85 million or whatever. Edited June 12, 2012 by halfsharkalligatorhalfman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Pig Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 maybe we should do a poll... Problem is now that "ninjas" is in my head, I'm having a tough time thinking of anything else. Hot lady aliens, maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelastonealive Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 i would put odds at him re-signing at 70%. over/under on contract 10.1 years/ $70.1MM. I am taking the under on both. I feel like (and have felt since the third round) that making it to the Final but losing may be the situation with the best odds of keeping Parise in Jersey - we've shown him we can win, with a coach he likes and respects (and hopefully finally some coaching stability), but there's now unfinished business for Parise here. Does it ultimately mean anything? Probably not - but I could see the reasons for leaving if we flamed out in the first round, or if we won the Cup. I can still see the reasons for leaving now, but I really want to believe he'd be more inclined to finish what he started here than jump on board somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Pig Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Well then the obvious answer is sexy pirates. Good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njdevsftw Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Zachs cap hit should not be higher then 7M.. Just not worth it long term. A lot of people here have rightly pointed out that Zach is a high energy type of player and will likely not age as well as someone who relies more on talent then work ethics. In fact, I even think 7M is a bit on the high side of his value. Is he really worth more money then Kopitar/Datsyuk/Sedins/Spezza/Iginla/Thornton?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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