DJ Eco Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 I like this move for the Rangers, I like it a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 well that's a shame. i really like Zibanejad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Wow, plan the parade route through lower Manhattan folks, the Rags won't be stopped now! [emoji57]Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundstrom Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 interesting trade. brassard was pretty good for the rangers - their #1 center really even though I think they consider steppan that. still - i'd say a pretty even trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 interesting trade. brassard was pretty good for the rangers - their #1 center really even though I think they consider steppan that. still - i'd say a pretty even trade. Kidding aside, it's a fair deal for both teams... Zibinajed is like six years younger than Brassard, which is obviously better for the Rags long term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roomtemp Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 (edited) The Rags getting instead of giving a pick in the first 3 rounds? What is this crap? The most curious thing about the move is that Brassard is more established and going to a team that isn't in a win now mode or even an upswing and Zibinajed is the guy with potential and younger going to the team that's more win now. Edited July 18, 2016 by roomtemp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldon Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Ehh, another team gives nyr some cap relief. And there goes another MSG Beginnings episode... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Great move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RizzMB30 Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Is it just me or does every team bail the Rangers out with almost every trade. It's probably just me. Paranoid as fuuuukSent from my C6725 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'7' Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Yea this has the earmarks of another help the rags type of deal. I mean as of now Brassard is the better player but Zibanejad had a nice year last year, and he is 23, and Ottawa throws in their 2nd in 2018. Not sure why they needed that to make this deal happen. If I'm Ottawa, there really is no need to make this trade unless perhaps Mika demanded it behind the scenes. Or he's a locker room cancer and we just don't know about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nessus Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Really don't understand this one from Ottawa's perspective. I like Zibanejad a lot, so it will suck to have to root against him. On a more uplifting note, this is the first NYR trade I've seen recently that reflects the notion that their window has closed. Also, to put something in perspective, people were talking about swapping Larsson for Zib not so long ago. Look what each player brought back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 On October 5, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Devilsfan118 said: Of course, AFTER he's done here he's bringing back the mullet I would have thought he would have waited until he was on the Islanders, but the mullet would only have been appropriate on Long Island, not in the BK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Rangers win the trade but it's not as outrageous as one might think, though the Senators did pay to get a hometown kid. Zibenjead gets more expensive next year and is paid the same amount as Brassard this year when you consider Brassard's bonus, so money is actually on Ottawa's side here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 It makes sense for both teams but in 1-2 seasons NYR will have the better player + the pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matteau#32 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 12 hours ago, Triumph said: Rangers win the trade but it's not as outrageous as one might think, though the Senators did pay to get a hometown kid. Zibenjead gets more expensive next year and is paid the same amount as Brassard this year when you consider Brassard's bonus, so money is actually on Ottawa's side here. How is money on Ottawa's side? Brassard makes $5MM per year. Zibanejad makes $3.25MM this year, but his cap hit is $2.625MM. I doubt Zibanejad gets $5MM next year as an RFA unless the cap goes up tremendously and that is only happening with a a huge jump in the price of oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matteau#32 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 13 hours ago, RizzMB30 said: Is it just me or does every team bail the Rangers out with almost every trade. It's probably just me. Paranoid as fuuuuk Sent from my C6725 using Tapatalk When has a team bailed out the Rangers? I can't wait to hear this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matteau#32 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 On 7/11/2016 at 11:32 AM, DJ Eco said: I'm no Rangers/Kreider expert, but I feel like Palmieri is on the upswing career/performance-wise and Kreider is on the downswing. I feel like 57 points Palmieri had this past season is what he will be consistently capable of moving forward, or at least hover around that. I think Kreider will just continue to stay where he's at, with his ceiling being at about 45-50 points max. He had a couple good playoffs, which I think have inflated his potential value but I'm not sure I'd offer him what Palmieri is making, the way Brooks is insinuating that Gorton should do. I think Gorton's better off trading him to someone else who overvalues him; I don't think Rangers can afford to throw money at people who may/may not be worth it, they need to certain with who they throw $4-5-6 million contracts to. I think they should prioritize JT Miller in the long run, and Miller would be a closer parallel to Palmieri, money-wise, imo. $4-5-6MM is a pretty big range. Kreider likely gets the lower end of that range. $4-4.5MM per year is a good deal for him on both ends. How does being good in the play-offs "inflate" one's value? A big reason why guys like Nash get ripped so much is because of how they have underperformed in the play-offs. Can't rip one guy for underperforming in the play-offs and at the same time downplay another because "He had a couple of good play-offs which I think have inflated his potential value..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 When has a team bailed out the Rangers? I can't wait to hear this one. Gomez for McDonagh certainly comes to mind immediately.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matteau#32 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 42 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said: Gomez for McDonagh certainly comes to mind immediately.... How long ago was that? You are also talking about a management team (Montreal) that was ready to send Subban, Price, and Paciorety to Tampa for Lecavalier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matteau#32 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Just now, Martyisth3b3st said: LOL. Are you ignorant, or just stupid?! so, you can't answer the question? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 this should be good. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matteau#32 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 15 minutes ago, SterioDesign said: this should be good. Just curious. Most Rangers fans hate most of the trades they have made the past few years and think the opposite. Like I said, the McDonagh for Gomez was simple incompetence out of Montreal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 2 hours ago, Matteau#32 said: When has a team bailed out the Rangers? I can't wait to hear this one. Kotalik and Higgins for Jokinen was an enormous bailout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 2 hours ago, Matteau#32 said: How is money on Ottawa's side? Brassard makes $5MM per year. Zibanejad makes $3.25MM this year, but his cap hit is $2.625MM. I doubt Zibanejad gets $5MM next year as an RFA unless the cap goes up tremendously and that is only happening with a a huge jump in the price of oil. Brassard makes $5M this year and then $3.5M in each of the next two years. I bet Zibanejad ends up being paid more money overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matteau#32 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Just now, Triumph said: Brassard makes $5M this year and then $3.5M in each of the next two years. I bet Zibanejad ends up being paid more money overall. The Cap hit is $5MM, which all I care about. The contract was front-loaded. Think Brassard was paid $7.5MM the first year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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