Rob_Ottawa Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 soo... an entire year of drama, whining, double guessing, GM fired... and he picks the fvcking Sabres? Are you fvcking serious? I... really dont have any idea how this happened. But basically, fuq him I hope he fails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerzey Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 9 minutes ago, Rob_Ottawa said: soo... an entire year of drama, whining, double guessing, GM fired... and he picks the fvcking Sabres? Are you fvcking serious? I... really dont have any idea how this happened. But basically, fuq him I hope he fails. He didn’t like it here and he made it pretty obvious by the end. I agree, fuq im. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Devilsfan118 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Hall deal makes sense to me - on Eichel's wind he should put up a very impressive season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDfan1711 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 hour ago, HellOnICE said: I guess so...I'm just like 1 yr 8M, he wants to be traded to a contender (I guess)...but in terms of betting on ur self - This season will be 60-65 games more likely, he'll get injured for 5 of them - put up 17G, 25-30A...then think he'll get a 7 year 56M? He turns 29 in less than a month - he ain't getting a 7 year deal unless a team is really stupid. I think he's got 2 or 3 years left before he really starts to decline, and that's not even taking into account if he can stay healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDfan1711 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 hour ago, mfitz804 said: Crazy though the deal that we were all talking about him getting and he winds up 1/$8m. I took a LOT of sh!t from people when I was saying I wouldn't back up the brinks truck for him and that I thought he'd get somewhere closer to 9/10M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, NJDfan1711 said: I took a LOT of sh!t from people when I was saying I wouldn't back up the brinks truck for him and that I thought he'd get somewhere closer to 9/10M. it would be a reaaaally different situation if this whole Covid thing didn't happen though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDfan1711 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 minute ago, SterioDesign said: it would be a reaaaally different situation if this whole Covid thing didn't happen though How? Of all the teams and players that it's affected (so far), you could make the argument that it's affected him the least, if at all. He played out 90% of the season last year and his team wasn't going to make the playoffs anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, NJDfan1711 said: How? Of all the teams and players that it's affected (so far), you could make the argument that it's affected him the least, if at all. He played out 90% of the season last year and his team wasn't going to make the playoffs anyway. All teams / owners lost a crazy amount of money and will lose more money again this year without fans in the stands for awhile. There's also tons of uncertainty of how this season will go. So many teams simpler wouldn't spend as much as they usually would. They've talked about this non-stop during the free agency broadcast all day 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagknife Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 what an absolute fraud. Holy sh!t, what an unbelievable fraud. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Just now, jagknife said: what an absolute fraud. Holy sh!t, what an unbelievable fraud. If that’s true, Hall can fvck off with his ‘it’s all about winning’ sh!t. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagknife Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Guess he needed that $1.5m extra for that enormous ego... I mean head of his... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 minute ago, SterioDesign said: All teams / owners lost a crazy amount of money and will lose more money again this year without fans in the stands for awhile. There's also tons of uncertainty of how this season will go. So many teams simpler wouldn't spend as much as they usually would. They've talked about this non-stop during the free agency broadcast all day And it’s just pretty obvious, whether anyone’s been saying it or not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, jagknife said: what an absolute fraud. Holy sh!t, what an unbelievable fraud. wow lol if true you're right. I mean i do believe he wants to win... But if it was THAT important. You pick Avs and make 1.5m less. thats a no brainer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagknife Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 minute ago, SterioDesign said: wow lol if true you're right. I mean i do believe he wants to win... But if it was THAT important. You pick Avs and make 1.5m less. thats a no brainer Even on their worst line, he’d easily be a 60 point guy if he never moved. Jesus I hope they miss the playoffs even more than I usually do. Screw the Sabres, bunch of losers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 He’ll still be playing for a contender come the trade deadline and he’ll have an extra $1.5m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 18 minutes ago, mfitz804 said: He’ll still be playing for a contender come the trade deadline and he’ll have an extra $1.5m. If he really cared about winning, you go to Colorado and take $1.5 million less. $1.5 million isn’t chump change, but if you’re serious about a Cup, you go to the team that could very well be a Taylor Hall away and don’t look back. That’s not deal-breaking money, unless you only care about money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muevelos Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 22 minutes ago, mfitz804 said: He’ll still be playing for a contender come the trade deadline and he’ll have an extra $1.5m. If he gets hurt again, this master plan of his is all fcked though. Ha. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 11 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said: If he really cared about winning, you go to Colorado and take $1.5 million less. $1.5 million isn’t chump change, but if you’re serious about a Cup, you go to the team that could very well be a Taylor Hall away and don’t look back. That’s not deal-breaking money, unless you only care about money. I don’t think he ever said he didn’t care about money. If he did, he’s the worst negotiator on earth lol. 9 minutes ago, Muevelos said: If he gets hurt again, this master plan of his is all fcked though. Ha. Well, there is that as well. It’s a roll of the dice for sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titans04 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 hour ago, mfitz804 said: And it’s just pretty obvious, whether anyone’s been saying it or not. Absolutely, and I think everybody is, has and will be saying it for at least the next year of two. Honestly unless Hall suffers a career threatening injury I don't think this was a bad move. Playing with Eichel for a coach he really liked in Edmonton could work out ok. He's betting on himself. Is he a strange bird, yeah for sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 minute ago, titans04 said: Absolutely, and I think everybody is, has and will be saying it for at least the next year of two. Honestly unless Hall suffers a career threatening injury I don't think this was a bad move. Playing with Eichel for a coach he really liked in Edmonton could work out ok. He's betting on himself. Is he a strange bird, yeah for sure. And, he has a great first couple of months, he’ll be #1 on all contenders’ trade deadline lists. If he stays healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Looking at it from the other angle though. Sakic is REALLY sticking to his plan uh. I mean... many GM would have been like... "fvck this im going for it and trade Byram for a top player for their run. Or throw an extra 1.5m to get a guy like Hall? They have so much cap room... they had a tough loss in the playoffs.... you'd think they'd want to really hit the pedal and go for it but no... he's really staying on his path Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, SterioDesign said: Looking at it from the other angle though. Sakic is REALLY sticking to his plan uh. I mean... many GM would have been like... "fvck this im going for it and trade Byram for a top player for their run. Or throw an extra 1.5m to get a guy like Hall? They have so much cap room... they had a tough loss in the playoffs.... you'd think they'd want to really hit the pedal and go for it but no... he's really staying on his path I still don’t think anyone trades their #4OA pick in the most recent draft for a rental player. This came up once before and I asked if anyone has any examples of anything like that ever happening, and I don’t think anyone did. I don’t think Byram was ever on the block, at least not for a rental situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 minute ago, mfitz804 said: I still don’t think anyone trades their #4OA pick in the most recent draft for a rental player. This came up once before and I asked if anyone has any examples of anything like that ever happening, and I don’t think anyone did. I don’t think Byram was ever on the block, at least not for a rental situation. Closest thing I can think of is Washington trading Filip Forsberg for Martin Erat. An absolute abomination of a trade for the Caps. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said: Closest thing I can think of is Washington trading Filip Forsberg for Martin Erat. An absolute abomination of a trade for the Caps. That was a terrible trade. Still a first rounder, but Forsberg was a #11 pick and Erat was under contract for an additional year, so he wasn’t a pure “rental”. Not that it makes the deal make any more sense. Byram was the top defenseman selected in 2019. It would be crazy to trade him for a rental, it would be like trading your 1st round pick when you know you are going to be in lottery position without protecting it. Bad plan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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