msweet Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 http://bleacherreport.com/articles/979161-patrick-elias-where-does-he-rank-among-the-nj-devils-greats Hard to believe, but Patrik Elias has been a full-time member of the New Jersey Devils for almost 15 years now.In that time frame he's won two Stanley Cups, played in nearly 1,000 NHL games and recorded nearly 350 goals, 500 assists and 850 points. He's also New Jersey's all-time franchise scoring leader, including its formative years in Kansas City and Colorado, and at age 35 isn't exactly finished just yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn01 Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Hes been one of the most consistent players I feel. He brings 110% to the ice each game and is always calm and collected. Glad he is with the Devils. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven M. Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Easily one of my favorites ever. I think we're all kinda lucky and might take him for granted... Will we ever see as gifted an offensive talent who is also so disciplined defensively again? Also, it's easy to forget all the time he missed with his illness. He's been so consistent for years, and is a Devil through and through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundstrom Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 well - considering that he's going to be the first forward to get his # retired here, i'd say he sits with the greats pretty well. stevens and marty are 1 and 2 but neidermayer and elias duke it out for 3 and 4. daneyko is #5. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Def top 5 or 6 all-time at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadds3424 Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 well - considering that he's going to be the first forward to get his # retired here, i'd say he sits with the greats pretty well. stevens and marty are 1 and 2 but neidermayer and elias duke it out for 3 and 4. daneyko is #5. I agree with this 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'7' Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 1. Stevens 2. Brodeur 3. Elias Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoArmySports Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 (edited) 1. Stevens 2. Brodeur 3. Elias 1. Brodeur 1A. Stevens 2. Elias Edited December 22, 2011 by GoArmySports Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'7' Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 1. Brodeur 1A. Stevens 2. Elias meh...can't argue with that either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aylbert Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 (edited) I think he's the 3rd greatest Devil to date and will be the last of the retired jerseys for a while (assuming Brodeur goes up before him)... I made a list of my top 20; but to be honest, just kinda rattled them off and rearranged quickly so I am sure I may have missed someone or will question my order a bit later. For one, I'm not sure if I put Burke or Terreri in the top 20... if they do, obviously near the bottom. Parise will rise up the more he is here. To be honest I wouldn't have included Daneyko on the retired jersey list... he would have made an excellent ring of honor, etc. 1) Martin Brodeur 2) Scott Stevens 3) Patrik Elias 4) Scott Niedermayer 5) Ken Daneyko ------------------ 6) John MacLean 7) Bruce Driver 8) Bobby Holik 9) Zach Parise 10) John Madden 11) Scott Gomez -only as a Devil, obviously. 12) Sergei Brylin 13) Jay Pandolfo 14) Randy McKay 15) Brian Rafalski 16) Kirk Muller 17) Tommy Albelin 18) Jamie Langenbrunner 19) Travis Zajac 20) Aaoron Broten Edited December 22, 2011 by aylbert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck the Duck Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Elias is one of the most under-rated Devils of all time (along with Pat Verbeek - my favorite player growing up). When taking all things into consideration, including pure skill, career achievements, and the player's impact upon this franchise's history, my top 5 would be: 1. Brodeur 2. Stevens 3. Niedermayer 4. Elias 5. Daneyko For Stevens and Brodeur, I can make an argument either way as to who should be # 1. Stevens solidified and legitimized the franchise unlike any other player, but Brodeur was the piece that put them over the top. It's no coincidence that his gaining the starting job in 1994 was the beginning of the Devils dynasty (1994-2004). For me, he's # 1, with Elias a respectable #4. He definitely deserves to have his number in the rafters one day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundstrom Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 I think he's the 3rd greatest Devil to date and will be the last of the retired jerseys for a while (assuming Brodeur goes up before him)... I made a list of my top 20; but to be honest, just kinda rattled them off and rearranged quickly so I am sure I may have missed someone or will question my order a bit later. For one, I'm not sure if I put Burke or Terreri in the top 20... if they do, obviously near the bottom. Parise will rise up the more he is here. To be honest I wouldn't have included Daneyko on the retired jersey list... he would have made an excellent ring of honor, etc. 1) Martin Brodeur 2) Scott Stevens 3) Patrik Elias 4) Scott Niedermayer 5) Ken Daneyko ------------------ 6) John MacLean 7) Bruce Driver 8) Bobby Holik 9) Zach Parise 10) John Madden 11) Scott Gomez -only as a Devil, obviously. 12) Sergei Brylin 13) Jay Pandolfo 14) Randy McKay 15) Brian Rafalski 16) Kirk Muller 17) Tommy Albelin 18) Jamie Langenbrunner 19) Travis Zajac 20) Aaoron Broten i think muller might be a tad low. i agree that i think burke and/or terreri belong on the list - certainly before albelin. its conceivable verbeek should be on this list but its still pretty comprehensive. obviously, kovalchuk will get on there eventually and make his way up. i think pando and broten get moved down/out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgeControl Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 I have him at number 4 behind Marty Stevens and Kovy, LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Random Poster Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 (edited) It's too hard to "rank" players because they all played such a vital role and were all unique in terms of contribution and impact. That's why it is difficult to "rank" Stevens, Brodeur and Niedermayer, Elias, Daneyko, et al. Best bet is to just leave it as they all relied on one another as a team to be great as that was the Devils way. Here's my choices for the immediate future. It doesn't have to be all about stats, Cups and names but impact each individual had in the organization. RETRIED NUMBERS: Patrik Elias, Martin Brodeur. RING OF HONOR: (Automatics): Sergei Brylin, John Maclean, Kirk Muller, Claude Lemieux. (Debatables): Randy McKay, Bobby Holik, John Madden, Mel Bridgman, Jay Pandolfo, Bruce Driver, Chico Resch, Stephane Richer, Patrik Sundstrom, Chris Terreri, Pat Verbeek, Brian Rafalski, Scott Gomez, Slava Fetisov, Aaron Broten Edited December 22, 2011 by SJP20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dan 56 Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 RETRIED NUMBERS: Patrik Elias, Martin Brodeur. RING OF HONOR: (Automatics): Sergei Brylin, John Maclean, Kirk Muller, Claude Lemieux. (Debatables): Randy McKay, Bobby Holik, John Madden, Mel Bridgman, Jay Pandolfo, Bruce Driver, Chico Resch, Stephane Richer, Patrik Sundstrom, Chris Terreri, Pat Verbeek, Brian Rafalski, Scott Gomez, Slava Fetisov, Aaron Broten I agree pretty much 100% with this. I'd love the Devils to finally have some sort of ring of honor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn01 Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 (edited) It's too hard to "rank" players because they all played such a vital role and were all unique in terms of contribution and impact. That's why it is difficult to "rank" Stevens, Brodeur and Niedermayer, Elias, Daneyko, et al. Best bet is to just leave it as they all relied on one another as a team to be great as that was the Devils way. Here's my choices for the immediate future. It doesn't have to be all about stats, Cups and names but impact each individual had in the organization. RETRIED NUMBERS: Patrik Elias, Martin Brodeur. RING OF HONOR: (Automatics): Sergei Brylin, John Maclean, Kirk Muller, Claude Lemieux. (Debatables): Randy McKay, Bobby Holik, John Madden, Mel Bridgman, Jay Pandolfo, Bruce Driver, Chico Resch, Stephane Richer, Patrik Sundstrom, Chris Terreri, Pat Verbeek, Brian Rafalski, Scott Gomez, Slava Fetisov, Aaron Broten I agree with this with the addition of Zajac and Gionta to the Debatable list. I also felt that Nieds should have been on that list. I feel like retiring his number was more of a "Quick! Lets retire someone....uhhh Scott! He just retired anyway!" move. Edited December 22, 2011 by Quinn01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 John Madden and Jay Pandolfo are definites for ring of honor, but that's just because I like them so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck27 Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 I think he's the 3rd greatest Devil to date and will be the last of the retired jerseys for a while (assuming Brodeur goes up before him)... I made a list of my top 20; but to be honest, just kinda rattled them off and rearranged quickly so I am sure I may have missed someone or will question my order a bit later. For one, I'm not sure if I put Burke or Terreri in the top 20... if they do, obviously near the bottom. Parise will rise up the more he is here. To be honest I wouldn't have included Daneyko on the retired jersey list... he would have made an excellent ring of honor, etc. 1) Martin Brodeur 2) Scott Stevens 3) Patrik Elias 4) Scott Niedermayer 5) Ken Daneyko ------------------ 6) John MacLean 7) Bruce Driver 8) Bobby Holik 9) Zach Parise 10) John Madden 11) Scott Gomez -only as a Devil, obviously. 12) Sergei Brylin 13) Jay Pandolfo 14) Randy McKay 15) Brian Rafalski 16) Kirk Muller 17) Tommy Albelin 18) Jamie Langenbrunner 19) Travis Zajac 20) Aaoron Broten Out of curiosity...is Lemieux an oversight, or is he intentionally off your list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MantaRay Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 (edited) well - considering that he's going to be the first forward to get his # retired here, i'd say he sits with the greats pretty well. stevens and marty are 1 and 2 but neidermayer and elias duke it out for 3 and 4. daneyko is #5. I agree with this. He is easily the forward this franchise has ever had. I would vote #3 Edited December 22, 2011 by MantaRay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MantaRay Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 It's too hard to "rank" players because they all played such a vital role and were all unique in terms of contribution and impact. That's why it is difficult to "rank" Stevens, Brodeur and Niedermayer, Elias, Daneyko, et al. Best bet is to just leave it as they all relied on one another as a team to be great as that was the Devils way. Here's my choices for the immediate future. It doesn't have to be all about stats, Cups and names but impact each individual had in the organization. RETRIED NUMBERS: Patrik Elias, Martin Brodeur. RING OF HONOR: (Automatics): Sergei Brylin, John Maclean, Kirk Muller, Claude Lemieux. (Debatables): Randy McKay, Bobby Holik, John Madden, Mel Bridgman, Jay Pandolfo, Bruce Driver, Chico Resch, Stephane Richer, Patrik Sundstrom, Chris Terreri, Pat Verbeek, Brian Rafalski, Scott Gomez, Slava Fetisov, Aaron Broten Mel Bridgemen???? Don Lever before him and honorable mention to John Weinsink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie McKraut Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Elias is the best ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Random Poster Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Mel Bridgemen???? Don Lever before him and honorable mention to John Weinsink Bridgman was a leader and vet influnce who bought a winning attitude and respect on some awful 80's teams. He was the team's first "true" captain and was a terrific mentor to young players like Muller (who would succeed him as captain) as well as Verbeek, Broten and Maclean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aylbert Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Out of curiosity...is Lemieux an oversight, or is he intentionally off your list? Verbeek was on the edge for me... Lemieux was left off on purpose only because of his length of tenure. I know him as a Devil, but I don't really see him as a protypical Devil. Also, he spent so much time with the Habs, Avs and Yotes that he doesn't really have a single team own him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Can't believe you're leaving this guy out: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaneykoIsGod Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 well - considering that he's going to be the first forward to get his # retired here, i'd say he sits with the greats pretty well. stevens and marty are 1 and 2 but neidermayer and elias duke it out for 3 and 4. daneyko is #5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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