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Ray Shero and Devils Part Ways Effective Immediately

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2 minutes ago, NJDevils1214 said:

Just goes to show how positive things were even leading up to this season.

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makes the decision of letting him go even more confusing having just made a huge commitment to him with the 4 year extension.  Makes it appear as if something went bad wrong and it escalated quickly.  More than just wins and loses this year imo.

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12 minutes ago, titans04 said:

makes the decision of letting him go even more confusing having just made a huge commitment to him with the 4 year extension.  Makes it appear as if something went bad wrong and it escalated quickly.  More than just wins and loses this year imo.

Def some unanswered questions here, based on the above.  

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19 minutes ago, titans04 said:

makes the decision of letting him go even more confusing having just made a huge commitment to him with the 4 year extension.  Makes it appear as if something went bad wrong and it escalated quickly.  More than just wins and loses this year imo.

 

4 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

Def some unanswered questions here, based on the above.  

Maybe that Palms rumor has some truth to it

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15 minutes ago, Satans Hockey said:

 

Maybe that Palms rumor has some truth to it

could be but is Palms really worth it coming to this?  I mean just say nah Ray we aren't trading him.  I trust the owners as hockey "guys" as far as I can throw them. Seriously I hope and pray they aren't making player evals and decisions. I get it for example having a big say in things like Taylors contract etc. based on cost and term. Palms would hardly be at that level.  I wonder who's call PK was because that deal is proving to be brutal.

I don't really buy the it's ok because we have the cap space. I just don't think it's ever ok to piss money away whether you have it or not. I don't think there's a crystal ball that says that money couldn't be used elsewhere now or in a year or two.  No one will ever really know who's available behind the scenes. 

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2 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

Def some unanswered questions here, based on the above.  

My guess is a combination of things. Maybe they weren't happy with how things were handled with Hynes, Hall, Nas as interim, Cory, how he was planning on handling Palms/Vats etc. It could have been a number of those things and they just decided they weren't on the same page anymore

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55 minutes ago, titans04 said:

Didn't remember this but kind of makes it even more curious. Good on Ray for getting paid.

 

 

God damn he must've gotten a nice buyout / severance check.

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i wouldnt be surprise to see bergevin getting fired in MTL and Shero taking over.

Shero was now fired twice for putting a decent team together "on paper" but then the players sh!t the bed. It's really not his fault Schneider, Mojo, Grabner, Subban etc etc all did worst than expected. All those moves were good moves on paper.

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2 minutes ago, SterioDesign said:

i wouldnt be surprise to see bergevin getting fired in MTL and Shero taking over.

Shero was now fired twice for putting a decent team together "on paper" but then the players sh!t the bed. It's really not his fault Schneider, Mojo, Grabner, Subban etc etc all did worst than expected. All those moves were good moves on paper.

Isn’t speaking French pretty much a prerequisite up there? 

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Rejean is French, right? 

or not close enough?

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4 minutes ago, Nicomo said:

Isn’t speaking French pretty much a prerequisite up there? 

it is lol but i've been reading more and more fans realizing it's ridiculous and they need to simply get someone who can do the job

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1 minute ago, titans04 said:

Rejean is French, right? 

or not close enough?

pretty close.

Also i still havent heard anyone on the Devils broadcast prononce Alain Nasraddine the right way so far lol 

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Say what you want about the owners but they are eating about three years on a Shero deal and two years on a Hynes extension (unless that’s moot with him going to Nashville).

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24 minutes ago, Nicomo said:

Isn’t speaking French pretty much a prerequisite up there? 

Yes it is, which still is so dumb imo.

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16 minutes ago, NJDevs4978 said:

Say what you want about the owners but they are eating about three years on a Shero deal and two years on a Hynes extension (unless that’s moot with him going to Nashville).

That’s moot with John. I’m sure Ray will get some cash, maybe take a consultant role with David Poile to keep warm. 

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4 hours ago, SterioDesign said:

i don't quite understand why some are saying that our drafting has been bad. It's so early. And at worst we're on par or better than the decade before Shero took over if you go through our draft history. If we break it down by slices of 5 years. We already all know how bad the drafting was with Conte but it's like we don't hold shero to the same standard for wtv reasons... some blame him for his drafting even if many many players are still developing... Obviously having top picks will make the job way way way easier on you. 

2015-2019 (Shero)

NHLers: Hischier / Bratt / Hughes / Blackwood / Zacha

Jury is still on out: Boqvist / McLeod  / Anderson / Smith

and there’s probably more... let's remember Coleman took a long time to make the NHL and he's now one of our best player. Was drafted in 2011 and played his first full season in 2017. So it took him 6 years !

2010-2014

NHLers: Wood / Severson / Kerfoot / Larsson / Coleman / Merrill

Mehhh: Quenneville / Santini / Boucher

2005-2009

NHLers: Zajac / Henrique

mehh: Josefson / Gelinas / Tedenby / Bergfors / Fayne

 

Again... context. 

I disagree because you called Zacha an NHLer. 

2 hours ago, Satans Hockey said:

Maybe that Palms rumor has some truth to it

Nobody risked their job nor fired a guy over Kyle Palmieri. 

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2 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

I disagree because you called Zacha an NHLer. 

yeah but i also called Wood an NHLer.

I'm a fvcking maniac man. A Maniac. 

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1 minute ago, mfitz804 said:

I disagree because you called Zacha an NHLer. 

Nobody risked their job nor fired a guy over Kyle Palmieri. 

Both very true imo.

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4 minutes ago, HellOnICE said:

That’s moot with John. I’m sure Ray will get some cash, maybe take a consultant role with David Poile to keep warm. 

Haha reunited with Hynes. 

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1 minute ago, SterioDesign said:

yeah but i also called Wood an NHLer.

I'm a fvcking maniac man. A Maniac. 

Looked this up just for kicks.

Wood: 245 games, 44G, 44A

Zacha: 242 games, 32G, 62A

Pretty close. One was 6th overall, one was 100th. 

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1 minute ago, mfitz804 said:

Looked this up just for kicks.

Wood: 245 games, 44G, 44A

Zacha: 242 games, 32G, 62A

Pretty close. One was 6th overall, one was 100th. 

But does Wood kill penalties like a boss?!

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1 minute ago, mfitz804 said:

Looked this up just for kicks.

Wood: 245 games, 44G, 44A

Zacha: 242 games, 32G, 62A

Pretty close. One was 6th overall, one was 100th. 

Also, didn’t you just tell everyone else to “get the fvck over it” wrt where Zacha was drafted? :P

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3 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

Looked this up just for kicks.

Wood: 245 games, 44G, 44A

Zacha: 242 games, 32G, 62A

Pretty close. One was 6th overall, one was 100th. 

one was drafted 3 years after the other though lol

So that's "potentially" an extra 246 games that Zacha has in hand here

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21 minutes ago, Nicomo said:

But does Wood kill penalties like a boss?!

No, neither does Zacha. Does Zacha rattle the goalie (literally) like Wood?

21 minutes ago, Nicomo said:

Also, didn’t you just tell everyone else to “get the fvck over it” wrt where Zacha was drafted? :P

I *might* occasionally say things just to antagonize people. Not saying if it was that post or this one. Don’t tell anyone, it’s a secret. 
 

20 minutes ago, SterioDesign said:

one was drafted 3 years after the other though lol

So that's "potentially" an extra 246 games that Zacha has in hand here

I forgot about all the expected goals Wood had in those potential games. How could I not factor that in??

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Wonder who made shero fire hynes then cause it wasnt sheros idea.

 

This makes no sense if owners are about the money, they throw it away.

If the owners are about direction of the team, they have sheros guys still in place

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