EdgeControl Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Im not overly concerned who the coach is next year, its a run-out year where we dump our vets. all assets should be focused on the draft and free agency. lou needs to assemble a top line, period...and we only have one part time player who possibly fits that now , in cammy. I see more of the same next year btw, people rip on oates in one sentence and then in another say we have the worst forwards corp in the league. granted he's not exactly making chicken salad with our........players. I also hope ownership isn't mandating a win now season to lou, that would be foolish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunninWithTheDevil Posted April 22, 2015 Author Share Posted April 22, 2015 Im not overly concerned who the coach is next year, its a run-out year where we dump our vets. all assets should be focused on the draft and free agency. lou needs to assemble a top line, period...and we only have one part time player who possibly fits that now , in cammy. I see more of the same next year btw, people rip on oates in one sentence and then in another say we have the worst forwards corp in the league. granted he's not exactly making chicken salad with our........players. I also hope ownership isn't mandating a win now season to lou, that would be foolish The last half of this season, Oates took a can of BB tuna, 2 pieces of stale bread, and turned it into a chicken salad sandwhich that could pass as edible at Panera, still not sure i want him as HC though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewarkDevil5 Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 The last half of this season, Oates took a can of BB tuna, 2 pieces of stale bread, and turned it into a chicken salad sandwhich that could pass as edible at Panera, still not sure i want him as HC though. I disagree with you. While our record improved, watching the team actually play was horrible and while I'm no advanced stats guru, the eye test and every advanced stats type person were both telling me we were being outplayed most nights and getting by on great goaltending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 If St. Louis is one and done, especially so if they are swept, then I think Hitch is as good as gone. Would love to have him as our coach then. He is the perfect fit for the Devils. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titans04 Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 I disagree with you. While our record improved, watching the team actually play was horrible and while I'm no advanced stats guru, the eye test and every advanced stats type person were both telling me we were being outplayed most nights and getting by on great goaltending. fully agree here. the three headed coaching staff improved very little if anything. They gave Adam a bigger chance, great. Otherwise they were a hot mess sans Cory and a favorable schedule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vadvlfan Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Right, who'd wanna come here? Such a mess. No hope whatsoever. [emoji57]Look, Oates isn't gonna be the head coach. If Lou wanted to name Oates, he would've done it by now. I don't know why that is so hard for people to comprehend. He stood on the bench with Oates for four months. He'd be the coach by now if Lou wanted him to be. I know it'll be a challenge here (NJ) . but, Philly won't be a bed of roses, Toronto is the worst place to end up. teams w/out coaches usually aren't a stacked successful team. Those teams aren't looking for a coach. This is going to be a rough year again for us Devil fans. I'll bet lou is scared to give it to Stevens because what happens if he has similar success as Maclean? One of the top 3 players in franchise gets sh>tcanned 1/2 way through 15/16 season. How embarrassing would that be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostonNala370 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 (edited) We'll agree to disagree here, 100%. if Lou was interested in Oates, he wouldn't name him yet out of respect to his co-coach Stevens, his respect for potential candidates out there, and also because he properly needs some time to evaluate how the season went. I'm not sure why that is so hard for you to understand...I mean when does Lou ever rush into anything. To announce Oates as head coach already, he'd have to negotiated a contract with him during the end of the season, he would have worked out a solution with Stevens (someone he has the utmost respect for). Don't you think that's a distraction for the staff? Doesn't that create a discomfort level/awkwardness for both Oates and Stevens who have to work in tandem in an already weird coaching set up? It just makes little sense. This is my thinking as well at this point. It's going to take a couple of With to make this a cup contending team. With the Cap coming down because the Canadian TV contract was less dollars because the value of the dollar in Canada is dropping that mean Lou need to make trades with teams in cap trouble but he doesn't have much to trade. So Oates is less risk. Edited April 23, 2015 by BostonNala370 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostonNala370 Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 How about Hitchcock as HC and Stevens as Co-Coach and Stevens is allowed to speak. Oates goes into front office unless Boston doesn't make Sweeney GM and then Sweeney comes in a AGM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losdiablos103 Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Ted Nolan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 According to reports the Leafs are planning to throw 40millions over 6 years to Babcock. That's over 3 times his current salary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck the Duck Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 According to reports the Leafs are planning to throw 40millions over 6 years to Babcock. That's over 3 times his current salary. They can have him. That's insane money for a coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilsrule33 Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 They can have him. That's insane money for a coach. For an NHL coach, yes, but not for one in the NBA or NFL. No reason MLSE shouldn't look to give him big time money even if it fvcks with the current salary range of NHL coaches. No cap on coaches...go for it. Having said all that, if you are giving him that much money, he would probably have final say on personnel, no? Otherwise, it's a tad excessive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 They can have him. That's insane money for a coach.No salary cap on coaches, and it ain't my money so I wouldn't care. If Harris wanted to up that offer tomorrow I say go for it. He won't, but just illustrating the point that Babcock's likely excessive salary shouldn't matter to anyone but the people signing his checks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck the Duck Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 No salary cap on coaches, and it ain't my money so I wouldn't care. If Harris wanted to up that offer tomorrow I say go for it. He won't, but just illustrating the point that Babcock's likely excessive salary shouldn't matter to anyone but the people signing his checks. I guarantee it matters to other teams around the NHL. The problem is that his contract now sets the benchmark for what top coaches will be paid. It potentially puts the teams that don't print money in a position where it makes it difficult for them financially and, in some cases, will have an effect on their overall hockey operations budget. I personally don't think he's that good that he would warrant such a salary. If you want to give him the GM title as well where he is making all of the personnel decisions, then maybe. But that's my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zubie#8 Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Is Hitchcock leaving the Blues yet? I want him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 I guarantee it matters to other teams around the NHL. The problem is that his contract now sets the benchmark for what top coaches will be paid. It potentially puts the teams that don't print money in a position where it makes it difficult for them financially and, in some cases, will have an effect on their overall hockey operations budget. I personally don't think he's that good that he would warrant such a salary. If you want to give him the GM title as well where he is making all of the personnel decisions, then maybe. But that's my opinion. Coaches are very rarely in a position where they can court offers from other teams. Sure, Babcock is. But in order to shop yourself around as a coach, there have to be lots of other vacancies league-wide. That's just not always going to be the case. For the most part, teams are satisfied with 'their guy'. I don't think it's an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecoffeecake Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Is Hitchcock leaving the Blues yet? I want him. I'm not sure I can stare at his neck for three years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagknife Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 I love how many people want Hitch now when EVERYONE wanted no part of him before we got DeBoer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewarkDevil5 Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 I'm not sure I can stare at his neck for three years. If he's lasted three years it more than likely means he's been successful in some respect. I'd be on board with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vadvlfan Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 I'm hoping for a coach that is a little more "tolerant' of young players, instead of insisting he can only trust vets in most situations. Lemaire was pretty good that way. Not sure how Hitch would be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas0nMacIsaac Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 I want a coach that will win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William D'Aquila Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Any chance Garvus comes over? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecoffeecake Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 If he's lasted three years it more than likely means he's been successful in some respect. I'd be on board with that.I honestly think unless there is some pressing circumstance, like johnny mac getting next to nothing from a pretty good group, a coach needs at least two or three years. A carousel of coaches isn't going to do anything for a team like the Devils except stagnate their growth. Right now we have no identity, no system, no real core. A coach needs a few years to build something here. We're in a situation the Devils organization hasn't been in in a generation; we're going to expect something short of a Stanley cup from the next coach. If you told me today the next Devils coach didn't win the Stanley cup here, I'd say well yea, but what did he get accomplished. Did he cultivate an identity? Did he develop the young guys the right way? Are we heading in the right direction? If you told us deboer or any other new hire coach in the last 20 years wasn't going to win a cup here when they were hired, we'd ask what the hell went wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglejelly Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 http://www.tsn.ca/babcock-permitted-to-talk-to-other-nhl-teams-1.278148 Babcock permitted to talk to other NHL teams. There are six coaching vacancies in the NHL with the Edmonton Oilers, Buffalo Sabres, Toronto Maple Leafs, Philadelphia Flyers, New Jersey Devils and San Jose Sharks looking to hire for next season. Does NJ have a shot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onddeck Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 (edited) http://www.tsn.ca/babcock-permitted-to-talk-to-other-nhl-teams-1.278148 Does NJ have a shot? probably doesn't have a shot. we will CERTAINLY be outbid, among other things. still though, you have to at least reach out to the guy Edited May 8, 2015 by Onddeck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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