DJ Eco Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I feel like he'll do a tiny $1-1.5m contract with New York Rangers (with a NTC, not to move from the area), before he takes $2-3m here (without a NTC, which we would need). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas0nMacIsaac Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I feel like he'll do a tiny $1-1.5m contract with New York Rangers (with a NTC, not to move from the area), before he takes $2-3m here (without a NTC, which we would need). No he won't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sokar Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I can see him going to the Flyers before he goes to the Devils Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lateralous Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 (edited) If we somehow end up with Marner in the draft which I think is more likely than some think (AZ - Strome, TO -Hanifin, CAR - Provorov?), it wouldn't be a bad idea to have MSL around to tutor him, even if it's just the pre-season and a 9 game stint before being sent back to London. I know Tyler Johnson gives MSL a lot of credit for his development and putting Jagr with the young guys in Florida seemed to do wonders for their games at the end of the season. Also, as brutal as he just was in the playoffs, MSL did just have a 50 point season. Jagr looked pretty washed up too after the run with Boston. Edited June 3, 2015 by Lateralous 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv4Life Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 (edited) For all this talk about us needing to get younger this is who we target? Stupid move if it comes to fruition and not because he's a Ranger or whether he'll help us make the PO or not. Edited June 3, 2015 by Marv4Life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecoffeecake Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 So you are giving up on next season already??I don't even know how to respond to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs26 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 MSL is fine so long as you don't stick yourself with a no-trade. As we saw with Zidlicky the value of what you get back can get pretty compromised when the market's limited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghdi Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 (edited) For all this talk about us needing to get younger this is who we target? Stupid move if it comes to fruition and not because he's a Ranger or whether he'll help us make the PO or not Here's the problem with this "He's old" arguments. How do you expect to get younger immediately? Spending years on late 20s/early 30s UFAs who will be washed up by the time we are contending? We're losing 4 forwards to UFA and Clowe to LTIR. Maybe Gomez comes back, so lets say 4 open spots. Matteau is the only one worth guaranteeing a spot to right now. Boucher Id rank just behind him. That's still 2 forward spots that need to be filled. Maybe our draft pick is a stud who can play immediately. Otherwise, short term deals are the best way to augment the team. We're almost certainly not making the playoffs in 2016. It's not giving up. It's being realistic with what we currently have, whats available, and even in the best scenarios what we could trade for. We're 3-4 pieces away from being a playoff team and guys like Larsson, Severson, Gelinas, and Merrill will all likely see significant playtime next season are still developing. Its not out of the question we have a decent year, but its far more likely we're back in the lottery this time next year. Im perfectly fine with St. Louis on a very short term (1-2) deal. I think he goes to a team closer to winning, but if we're his last resort so be it. He can produce in the regular season and guys like Boucher and Matteau could benefit from a guy like him. Edited June 3, 2015 by ghdi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 If they take s run at him, I'm pretty sure they'd catch him. That being said, his goal total this year would have been good enough for second on our team. I'd not be opposed if the price is right AND they are too stupid to pursue real young talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I want no part of him. For starters, I saw what he did in Tampa and even though he's a few years past that now and he isn't in a situation to screw us over like he did them, I don't like his attitude and personality, and beyond that, he's also too old and probably wouldn't bring much to the table. No, I don't want to see more of Tim Sestito, but there are other guys I'd rather see besides a well-past-his-prime douchebag like St. Louis. MSL asking to be traded was one of the best things that ever happened to Tampa. Two first round picks and Callahan. If we could get even close to that return should we do a sign and trade at the deadline type deal, the guy could run his mouth about how NJ is the worst place in the world and take a crap on Shero's desk for all I care. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slasher72 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Shouldn't we be trying to get younger?? We already have enough old players who barely produce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satans Hockey Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I sure as hell hope not. He's a washed up whiner. fvck him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils Pride 26 Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Hell, bring in Richards too and set up shop with them on a line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDfan1711 Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 MSL asking to be traded was one of the best things that ever happened to Tampa. Two first round picks and Callahan. If we could get even close to that return should we do a sign and trade at the deadline type deal, the guy could run his mouth about how NJ is the worst place in the world and take a crap on Shero's desk for all I care. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Oh for sure, I agree. And I'm not one to overuse the word 'rape' when describing a terrible scenario, BUT...Yzerman absolutely raped their GM/team in that deal. It was incredibly one-sided and very awesome for TB. I hated Yzerman for a while, especially for some of the stuff involving re-acquiring Carle, but that move and a few others he's made were pure gold. He's turned into quite a competent GM in a fairly short amount of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonDreads Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 On a 1-year deal there's nothing wrong with signing Marty St. Louis, as others have said he could probably give us some decent production and help mentor some of the younger kids, and he can always be dealt at the deadline for draft picks (which, you need those to get younger, fyi). It would be a problem if he logjams us from bringing up younger players, but like others have said, we have about 4 spots open at forward right now, one can go to MSL and we still have 3 spots open for youth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RizzMB30 Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Hell, bring in Richards too and set up shop with them on a line. NYR tried that, it doesn't help. lol One thing that I've noticed that no one else mentioned was adding another small player. We already have Cammalleri who isn't going to slow down anyone or impose himself on anyone with his size. St. Louis compared to Cammalleri, I think we have the better player at this point in both of their careers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dan 56 Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 So you are giving up on next season already?? It's really not realistic to expect the playoffs next year. It's going to take some time to get some forwards together plus the D is still pretty young. I mean, if Cory plays out of his mind and some magic happens at forward, maybe. But I'm not expecting playoffs just yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 I've been saying we're two players away from the playoffs for a couple years. One stud forward, and one more medium level top 6 guy (like a Cammalleri). Unfortunately, I'm still saying it because they never do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilsrule33 Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 It's pretty crazy that some people are against St. Louis coming here. I don't think he'd personally want to come here over the Rangers/Isles/Philly/Boston/Pitt/Montreal anywhere else that isn't miles away from wherever his family is. But is it him being a Ranger talking? St. Louis was better than any winger the Devils had this year. It's possible he'd be one of the Devils best wingers next season. The Devils need to bring in players, and you want to avoid giving any older UFA multiple years. St. Louis is the perfect player, but again, no way he wants to finish his career here. A lot of better teams will be calling interested in his services. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 It's pretty crazy that some people are against St. Louis coming here. I don't think he'd personally want to come here over the Rangers/Isles/Philly/Boston/Pitt/Montreal anywhere else that isn't miles away from wherever his family is. But is it him being a Ranger talking? St. Louis was better than any winger the Devils had this year. It's possible he'd be one of the Devils best wingers next season. The Devils need to bring in players, and you want to avoid giving any older UFA multiple years. St. Louis is the perfect player, but again, no way he wants to finish his career here. A lot of better teams will be calling interested in his services. He lives in Connecticut. Basically the only 3 teams he could play for where he wouldn't have to maintain an apartment would be NJ/NYR/NYI. He wouldn't finish his career here unless it was a disaster or NJ somehow is good next year. NJ can offer him staying at home for 6 months and a significantly bigger payday than anywhere else. It's a deal that would make some sense for him, especially if the NYR say no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghdi Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 (edited) Shouldn't we be trying to get younger?? We already have enough old players who barely produce. Marty St. Louis this past season would've LED this team in scoring by 9 points. That's how much this team "barely produces". No one is arguing we shouldnt be getting younger. The problem is its not a magic elixir where its going to happen in one fell swoop. We don't have enough NHL ready prospects that even deserve a shot yet and the cost to sign the younger UFAs outweighs the contracts we'd have to give to get a player like Matt "David Clarkson 2.0" Beleskey. We're not going to be able to automatically insert draft picks into the 5 holes (4 UFA + Clowe) into the forward corps we have right now. There will be UFAs signed. Would you rather waste cap/years on a guy you hate in 2-3 years and want gone, or 1-2 on a veteran who can still produce in the regular season and has a work ethic that can brush off on the young guys we do have. Edited June 4, 2015 by ghdi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoArmySports Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 We aren't in win now mode so as long as he isn't given a NTC and the deal is for one year I'm not opposed to bringing in MSL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themightyall Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Marty St. Louis this past season would've LED this team in scoring by 9 points. That's how much this team "barely produces". No one is arguing we shouldnt be getting younger. The problem is its not a magic elixir where its going to happen in one fell swoop. We don't have enough NHL ready prospects that even deserve a shot yet and the cost to sign the younger UFAs outweighs the contracts we'd have to give to get a player like Matt "David Clarkson 2.0" Beleskey. We're not going to be able to automatically insert draft picks into the 5 holes (4 UFA + Clowe) into the forward corps we have right now. There will be UFAs signed. Would you rather waste cap/years on a guy you hate in 2-3 years and want gone, or 1-2 on a veteran who can still produce in the regular season and has a work ethic that can brush off on the young guys we do have. I love this post. Let's see where fielding an actual NHL team rather than a bunch of AHL players goes and see what Shero does from there. The same people that don't want MSL because he doesn't produce in the playoffs are the same people that think this team is 5 years away from competing. They just like complaining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fsu1852 Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 I dont mind it because we still have to put a team on the ice and if he does do good. We trade him for a 2nd or 3rd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zubie#8 Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 The amount of people saying no because he is old is stunning. If we sign him its with the attention of getting assets back. Its a no brainer here people. If you can sign him, sign him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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