Daniel Posted July 2, 2017 Author Share Posted July 2, 2017 29 minutes ago, Triumph said: The thing is that this is still not a great deal for 2 years because Marleau looks like he's a bit of a passenger on SJ these days and while he's not going to be asked to carry the load in Toronto, I don't know how I'd feel about paying for a 38 year old guy to maintain his goal scoring ability. If it doesn't prevent Toronto doing something they might otherwise want to or need to do, the fact that they're paying an old guy a lot of money doesn't matter. I have no idea if that's the case or not, not knowing what Toronto wants to or should try to do, but that's the ultimate logic of handing out free agent deals, especially if you're a team that could hand out $150 million in contracts a year and still be very profitable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sokar Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 (edited) IF you are looking for a team to trade with this is it Edited July 2, 2017 by sokar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 13 minutes ago, Daniel said: If it doesn't prevent Toronto doing something they might otherwise want to or need to do, the fact that they're paying an old guy a lot of money doesn't matter. I have no idea if that's the case or not, not knowing what Toronto wants to or should try to do, but that's the ultimate logic of handing out free agent deals, especially if you're a team that could hand out $150 million in contracts a year and still be very profitable. The Leafs have Horton and Lupul on their books and they almost certainly cannot get rid of Horton for 3 years. This means that unless the Leafs keep Horton off LTIR they will risk bonus overages with their young players on ELCs. This is especially true in Matthews and Marner's final season - imagine a scenario where they earn $3M in bonuses and then are signed to contracts that equal $14M the next season, well now you are effectively paying $17M for them. That's going to make it hard for the Leafs to do a lot of other stuff. I like this Marleau contract idea in theory but I don't think he's that good of a player anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicomo Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 22 minutes ago, sokar said: IF you are looking for a team to trade with this is it That's a lot of years and $. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fsu1852 Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 Caps have 4.6 million left in cap space and still have to sign Burakovsky and Grubauer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 11 minutes ago, fsu1852 said: Caps have 4.6 million left in cap space and still have to sign Burakovsky and Grubauer I believe Orlov is still and RFA as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundstrom Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, CarpathianForest said: I believe Orlov is still and RFA as well. You would be mistaken. He signed for 5.1MM/6years Edited July 3, 2017 by sundstrom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dan 56 Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, CarpathianForest said: I believe Orlov is still and RFA as well. They signed Orlov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundstrom Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Lovejoy for: Orpik Connoly Lucas Johansen gives Caps cap room. Devils get serviceable RW and excellent defensive prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 The third year on that Marleau contract isn't great, but he's still good for 20+ goals and will provide some mentoring for the younger players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 I believe Orlov is still and RFA as well. Orlov signed the other day.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Lovejoy for: Orpik Connoly Lucas Johansen gives Caps cap room. Devils get serviceable RW and excellent defensive prospect. I will drive Lovejoy to the airport myself, and if the Caps want, I will take out a loan in my own name and pay Lovejoy's salary myself in order to facilitate this deal if necessary. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fsu1852 Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, fsu1852 said: Now that is awesome! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBreeze Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 I wrote this this morning and I wish I posted it then, but it makes even more sense after this trade: Shattenkirk is NOT the next Bobby Orr. He's a nice player who would have been overpaid in a bad UFA year. He wanted to go to the Rags and did, Ray did what he reasonably could. You have to remember that while most of the big names go on the first day, it's not a one day event, there are still a few players out there. I think that if we can get a Cody Franson, with today's trade, the draft, it'll be a nice off season for a team that is still rebuilding. I know it's hard to see other teams landing big ticket items and we don't, but once you get a good night's sleep it's easier to see the big picture. Personally I'm pretty OK with Ray's work so far. Now let's get a damn defenseman and let's go Devils! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 11 hours ago, fsu1852 said: I was thinking of 2019 class. Fair. But I really doubt how many of the interesting ones make it to UFA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimaira_Devil_#9 Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Who else is right up against the cap that Shero can fleece for some Defense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonDreads Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Habs just signed Ales Hemsky to a 1 year deal for their right side, seems to indicate to me they're out on Radulov. Probably going to Dallas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonDreads Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 That contract is gonna be a disaster in years 4 & 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slasher72 Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 (edited) 18 hours ago, MadDog2020 said: Marleau got a full NMC too? Good God Lou. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Lou swinging for the cheap seats! Signs Marleau (38), Dominic Moore (36), and Ron Hainsey (36) all to multi-year deals. Edited July 3, 2017 by slasher72 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NJDevils1214 Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 36 minutes ago, CommonDreads said: Dodging bullet after bullet and don't even have to be in the matrix. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagknife Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 52 minutes ago, slasher72 said: Lou swinging for the cheap seats! Signs Marleau (38), Dominic Moore (36), and Ron Hainsey (36) all to multi-year deals. New team, same Lou type moves 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dan 56 Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 6 minutes ago, jagknife said: New team, same Lou type moves I've always supported Lou and I'll always appreciate what he's done, but damn i'm happy we have Shero right now. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDfan1711 Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, Devil Dan 56 said: I've always supported Lou and I'll always appreciate what he's done, but damn i'm happy we have Shero right now. I feel precisely the same way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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