Antiquated Colorado Rockie Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, vadvlfan said: Being that other "big name' guys (are now asking for shorter term contracts) Mathews/Marner/ 5 years max, (so they get 2 big paydays) This might become a trend. Hallsy w/ 2-3 yr. contract? (i'd be ok w/ that) The Leafs guys are RFAs. Can't imagine a UFA the stature of Taylor Hall signing a shorter term deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, Antiquated Colorado Rockie said: The Leafs guys are RFAs. Can't imagine a UFA the stature of Taylor Hall signing a shorter term deal. Agreed. If he signs a two or three-year deal, his agent failed him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derlique Posted August 26, 2019 Author Share Posted August 26, 2019 Hall's comparables are Panarin (7x11.64), Seguin (8x 9.85), and Tavares (7x11). If I had to guess, I'd bet he gets 8 x11.5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dan 56 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 49 minutes ago, vadvlfan said: Being that other "big name' guys (are now asking for shorter term contracts) Mathews/Marner/ 5 years max, (so they get 2 big paydays) This might become a trend. Hallsy w/ 2-3 yr. contract? (i'd be ok w/ that) A guy like Hall wants that longevity, especially with his injury history. Matthews and Marner are just trying to get to UFA status. Marner specifically seems like he is willing to sell the Leafs out in a heartbeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 6 minutes ago, Derlique said: Hall's comparables are Panarin (7x11.64), Seguin (8x 9.85), and Tavares (7x11). If I had to guess, I'd bet he gets 8 x11.5 Money isn’t going to be the issue here. He’ll get it wherever he goes, and he’ll get 7 years anywhere else he goes other than here. It’s a pure decision of where he wants to stare at his girlfriend’s ass. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobilly45 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 1 hour ago, mfitz804 said: Money isn’t going to be the issue here. He’ll get it wherever he goes, and he’ll get 7 years anywhere else he goes other than here. It’s a pure decision of where he wants to stare at his girlfriend’s ass. I'd argue its HER decision, esp if it's a very serious relationship. If she doesnt like nj, and wants out of the state, then odds are against him staying imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derlique Posted August 27, 2019 Author Share Posted August 27, 2019 1 hour ago, mfitz804 said: Money isn’t going to be the issue here. He’ll get it wherever he goes, and he’ll get 7 years anywhere else he goes other than here. It’s a pure decision of where he wants to stare at his girlfriend’s ass. Of course money won't be an issue. I'm just speculating what his contract will look like if he decides to re-sign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Derlique said: Of course money won't be an issue. I'm just speculating what his contract will look like if he decides to re-sign. Lots of money times lots of years lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicomo Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 1 hour ago, bobilly45 said: I'd argue its HER decision, esp if it's a very serious relationship. If she doesnt like nj, and wants out of the state, then odds are against him staying imo Yep. We’ve seen it countless times across the league. Even with the GOAT. Where is Hall’s gf from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 22 minutes ago, Nicomo said: Where is Hall’s gf from? I’m assuming heaven. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 I'd go 8 x 11 for Hall, maybe 8 x 11.5 if it took it to get the deal done. Any higher - have to explore other options. That said, as has been discussed, money isn't going to be the issue here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevils1214 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 We're going about this the wrong way....We just sign his girlfriend then he has no choice but to stay as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 9 minutes ago, MB3 said: Yeah she is painfully gorgeous. The real answer, I’m almost positive, is Toronto. But she lives in NJ with Taylor during the season. I could’ve sworn I heard she was from around here, but that could be fake news.... I thought she was a local chick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Nicomo said: Yep. We’ve seen it countless times across the league. Even with the GOAT. Where is Hall’s gf from? Gretzky was traded because his owner was broke. It's not clear whether he would've been dealt if he hadn't been - she made an easy scapegoat though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicomo Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 12 minutes ago, Triumph said: Gretzky was traded because his owner was broke. It's not clear whether he would've been dealt if he hadn't been - she made an easy scapegoat though. Was it just coincidence that he ended up in LA though? Of all the teams in the league he went where his new wife could continue her acting career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, Devil Dan 56 said: A guy like Hall wants that longevity, especially with his injury history. Matthews and Marner are just trying to get to UFA status. Marner specifically seems like he is willing to sell the Leafs out in a heartbeat. The general feeling in Toronto, is that Marner doesn't want to play anywhere but Toronto - which has afforded Toronto some unspoken leverage. You're right to say that he wants to get to UFA, but not to leave Toronto. But who knows what will happen in the next 3-6 years, whatever his next contract is. Edited August 27, 2019 by Neb00rs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDfan1711 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 I go 8 years 10M for Hall, 8x10.5 max. Given the other three comparables, he's a year older than Seguin, a year younger than Tavares, and a month apart from Panarin, so he's right in the middle of all of them, except he's got a considerable injury history as of late, so with that in mind, I think that has to impact his deal a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicomo Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 54 minutes ago, NJDfan1711 said: I go 8 years 10M for Hall, 8x10.5 max. Given the other three comparables, he's a year older than Seguin, a year younger than Tavares, and a month apart from Panarin, so he's right in the middle of all of them, except he's got a considerable injury history as of late, so with that in mind, I think that has to impact his deal a bit. He also has an MVP as of late. None of those other guys did when they got their deals. That will also impact what he gets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDfan1711 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, Nicomo said: He also has an MVP as of late. None of those other guys did when they got their deals. That will also impact what he gets. I was thinking that and almost mentioned it, but being that it was a year and a half ago, and the injury that kept him out more than half a season was more current and fresh in the mind, I feel like that will outweigh it a little bit. Right wrong or indifferent, but that's just the way it works. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slasher72 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Hall probably wants to play in Calgary or Edmonton with his buddies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 i mean i don't want to downplay his MVP season... but MVP doesnt mean he was the best player in the league or anything so it shouldnt give him anything above other guys from other teams or wtv. Multiple players had better season than he did that year, Mackinon who was also up for the trophy had a better season but since Hall had a WAY worst team and no help he was the real definition of an MVP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicomo Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 28 minutes ago, SterioDesign said: i mean i don't want to downplay his MVP season... but MVP doesnt mean he was the best player in the league or anything so it shouldnt give him anything above other guys from other teams or wtv. Multiple players had better season than he did that year, Mackinon who was also up for the trophy had a better season but since Hall had a WAY worst team and no help he was the real definition of an MVP This post is literally all over the place lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 24 minutes ago, Nicomo said: This post is literally all over the place lol it was in response to you saying "He also has an MVP as of late. None of those other guys did when they got their deals. " You can't really use that as a comparison to other guys around the league. He won it because he had a great season in a specific situation that other guys around the league werent... he won it cause the rest of the team was terrible and he really carried it. Seguin, Tavares, etc all had other players producing around them, it really shouldnt take anything away from them or giving anything extra to Hall in this case. It's all about the situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicomo Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, SterioDesign said: it was in response to you saying "He also has an MVP as of late. None of those other guys did when they got their deals. " You can't really use that as a comparison to other guys around the league. He won it because he had a great season in a specific situation that other guys around the league werent... he won it cause the rest of the team was terrible and he really carried it. Seguin, Tavares, etc all had other players producing around them, it really shouldnt take anything away from them or giving anything extra to Hall in this case. It's all about the situation. You can absolutely use it. A Hart Trophy is a Hart Trophy. It can only help his bargaining position. The fact that a few guys had a handful more points that year doesn’t take away from that. Would Hall get a huge 11 million dollar contract if he hadn’t won it? And his best season was still 80 points back in Edmonton? My point was it will help him get paid, despite the injuries. Edited August 29, 2019 by Nicomo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aylbert Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 (edited) On 8/27/2019 at 8:29 AM, NJDfan1711 said: I go 8 years 10M for Hall, 8x10.5 max. Given the other three comparables, he's a year older than Seguin, a year younger than Tavares, and a month apart from Panarin, so he's right in the middle of all of them, except he's got a considerable injury history as of late, so with that in mind, I think that has to impact his deal a bit. A year older than Seguin (Jan 31 1992)? He’s 2.5 months older (Nov 14 1991). Panarin is “older” being October 30, 1991. Let’s just say that trio is all the same age... He signs a massive deal wherever he wants and any injury history is flat out ignored... because you don’t NOT sign Taylor Hall at 10/11mm a season. Edited August 29, 2019 by aylbert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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