Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Jagr for Bennett is impossible - the Penguins are right up against the cap. They'd have to get rid of some salary and I don't see how they can do that. I haven't looked up each team's situation, but Don Maloney (Arizona GM) said on WFAN yesterday that this is definitely a problem with some playoff (and possible playoff) teams...it's not that they don't want to add players, it's that they really can't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 I haven't looked up each team's situation, but Don Maloney (Arizona GM) said on WFAN yesterday that this is definitely a problem with some playoff (and possible playoff) teams...it's not that they don't want to add players, it's that they really can't. There's gotta be some clever work-around that teams will employ to shift salary around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Leeds Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 I haven't looked up each team's situation, but Don Maloney (Arizona GM) said on WFAN yesterday that this is definitely a problem with some playoff (and possible playoff) teams...it's not that they don't want to add players, it's that they really can't. That really blows then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 I haven't looked up each team's situation, but Don Maloney (Arizona GM) said on WFAN yesterday that this is definitely a problem with some playoff (and possible playoff) teams...it's not that they don't want to add players, it's that they really can't. I can't wait to be nine points out at the deadline and read all the complaining after we get a crap return for Jagr, no return for Zid and maybe a late rounder for Ryder. The comical thing is that's probably all that would happen if we were three points out minus maybe a Ruutu type 'buy' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vadvlfan Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 I can't wait to be nine points out at the deadline and read all the complaining after we get a crap return for Jagr, no return for Zid and maybe a late rounder for Ryder. The comical thing is that's probably all that would happen if we were three points out minus maybe a Ruutu type 'buy' you got that right! That's all Lou could get for him? He's damned if he does either way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 you got that right! That's all Lou could get for him? He's damned if he does either wayYeah can't wait for more mindless rambling and finger-pointing about Lou from SD, that'll be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Yeah can't wait for more mindless rambling and finger-pointing about Lou from SD, that'll be great. We all know that's coming...the irony will be that Lou will have for the first time ever (not accurate, but when has SD ever cared about that?) traded "assets" that there's a possible-to-strong chance that the Devils won't re-sign, and SD (and some others, to be fair) will then complain about the returns not being enough. The "Lou needs to least get SOMETHING" mantra will go right out the window if the "somethings" aren't anything great. Which they won't be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Yeah if anyone is traded, it's going to be to dump them for whatever, they will not be trading any pieces that yield a significant return. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 (edited) We all know that's coming...the irony will be that Lou will have for the first time ever (not accurate, but when has SD ever cared about that?) traded "assets" that there's a possible-to-strong chance that the Devils won't re-sign, and SD (and some others, to be fair) will then complain about the returns not being enough. The "Lou needs to least get SOMETHING" mantra will go right out the window if the "somethings" aren't anything great. Which they won't be.Thats what people with idiotic, non-sensical arguments do- move the goal posts to fit their idiotic, non-sensical arguments. Edited February 26, 2015 by MadDog2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 I'd like to see what the possible markets for NJ's guys are, but without capgeek it's just impossible to tell what kind of room everyone has. That site was so invaluable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 I'd like to see what the possible markets for NJ's guys are, but without capgeek it's just impossible to tell what kind of room everyone has. That site was so invaluable. Admittedly, I wasn't thinking about that part of the equation until I heard Maloney bring it up. He actually sounded a little despondent over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck the Duck Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 (edited) I'd like to see what the possible markets for NJ's guys are, but without capgeek it's just impossible to tell what kind of room everyone has. That site was so invaluable. To everyone except Gary Bettman, who has said that the information on that site has no value to fans. http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2015/02/25/bettman-downplays-capgeek-style-site-idea-its-not-something-driving-fan-interest/ Edited February 26, 2015 by Chuck the Duck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundstrom Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 I'd like to see what the possible markets for NJ's guys are, but without capgeek it's just impossible to tell what kind of room everyone has. That site was so invaluable. it boggles the mind that someone hasn't tried to fill the void better than nhlnumbers. the guy that ran capgeek obviously had health issues and that's what caused it to stop, but i'm surprised that someone couldn't take up it's mantle and he could still collect revenue. i love how betteman says it's something that the fans don't really want and that's why the NHL doesn't do it. its obvious that it was something the owners really disliked as it made it quite obvious when they had money to spend and didn't spend it. i'm sure the players didn't love it either because it left a big target on their backs also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmann422 Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 SD you are about to be the first person I block on this forum. Can we please just start an SD rant thread so he doesn't poison EVERY other thread with his nonsense? This is about the 2015 trade deadline, not 2013 or 2012. On topic- rental prices seem to be quite high, I hope Lou realizes this, sucks it up and dumps zidlicky and jagr for anything, I'd say Ryder too but we know he probably would return a 6th rounder at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Bettman...now that's a guy who's in touch with what the fans want. If he was he would've resigned a long time ago. Yeah, miss capgeek a lot. And yeah, players and GMs probably aren't too sorry to see it go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerzey Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 There's NHL Numbers but capgeek was better IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 (edited) The capgeek guy clearly saw it as a personal project and didn't want to have someone else continue it. There is a site coming that should fill the void, but it happened quite suddenly - and what kind of idiot is going to program a site to try to compete with capgeek? It was clearly the best. As for the NHL not running its own capgeek, that seems obvious - they don't like the discussions about numbers and see no value in providing that sort of content. Basically anyone who gives a damn about salaries is already on board as an NHL fan, they don't really need to cater to that person. As someone pointed out, if they wanted the numbers to be out there, all teams would be disclosing salary information. Edited February 26, 2015 by Triumph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 (edited) SD you are about to be the first person I block on this forum. Can we please just start an SD rant thread so he doesn't poison EVERY other thread with his nonsense? This is about the 2015 trade deadline, not 2013 or 2012. On topic- rental prices seem to be quite high, I hope Lou realizes this, sucks it up and dumps zidlicky and jagr for anything, I'd say Ryder too but we know he probably would return a 6th rounder at best. re: Ryder, the guy actually has the potential be a bit of a bargain for the 6th- or 7th-rounder it will take to get him. I can't see how a healthy scratch on a not-good team can possibly fetch more than that. I don't care about what Lou gets back for him...I just want him gone (even though he practically is already). Edited February 26, 2015 by Colorado Rockies 1976 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Yeah, Ryder can be stuck somewhere, anywhere - a 6th round pick and NJ picking up half the salary and he's gone. NJ has no reason at all to keep him and he doesn't want to be here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmann422 Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 re: Ryder, the guy actually has the potential be a bit of a bargain for the 6th- or 7th-rounder it will take to get him. I can't see how a healthy scratch on a not-good team can possibly fetch more than that. I don't care about what Lou gets back for him...I just want him gone (even though he practically is already). what contender would see Ryder as an upgrade to what they currently have? He's barely a 3rd line player now. I would think there are a lot better options available... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louismydad Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Honestly if Jagr doesnt get at least a 3rd whats the point in trading him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv4Life Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 what contender would see Ryder as an upgrade to what they currently have? He's barely a 3rd line player now. I would think there are a lot better options available...The Bruins are speculated to have interest in him...They can use someone who is a goal scorer streaky or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 what contender would see Ryder as an upgrade to what they currently have? He's barely a 3rd line player now. I would think there are a lot better options available... Such a team would have to be a believer that Ryder was somehow in a bad situation with the Devils and/or wasn't used properly. Remember that the other options might be much more costly. You can basically get Ryder almost for free. He could be someone's Steve Sullivan. Honestly if Jagr doesnt get at least a 3rd whats the point in trading him He looks and sounds like he's just done here. I like Jagr and appreciate what he did overall as a Devil, but there's no reason to keep him around if he's not into it anymore. You can give Paul Thompson or Mike Sislo (or both) a look (though neither is likely to be a long-term answer to anything). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hystyk28 Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 The capgeek guy clearly saw it as a personal project and didn't want to have someone else continue it. There is a site coming that should fill the void, but it happened quite suddenly - and what kind of idiot is going to program a site to try to compete with capgeek? It was clearly the best. As for the NHL not running its own capgeek, that seems obvious - they don't like the discussions about numbers and see no value in providing that sort of content. Basically anyone who gives a damn about salaries is already on board as an NHL fan, they don't really need to cater to that person. As someone pointed out, if they wanted the numbers to be out there, all teams would be disclosing salary information. Pure speculation, but I think he got some sort cease and desist. Maybe he had some sort of access to information he shouldn't have is my guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Leeds Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 The capgeek guy clearly saw it as a personal project and didn't want to have someone else continue it. There is a site coming that should fill the void, but it happened quite suddenly - and what kind of idiot is going to program a site to try to compete with capgeek? It was clearly the best. How is this one? I didn't open it but this was linked on the article that Bettman was in: http://www.spotrac.com/nhl/rankings/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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