NJDevils1214 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, NJDfan1711 said: Yeah I'm all for building momentum and good morale I suppose, but your last part is essentially my point...you don't get points for pre-season wins lol. Not complaining in the least, I'm juts kind of curious why the young guys didn't get a look. If it was me, I'm saying to them "hey guys, here's a great opportunity with no pressure to get used to the shootout at the NHL level - go get 'em and have some fun" Im pretty sure the average age of the guys we put in the SO was like 20. Who else would you have wanted to see? I get what you are saying I just think it is nit-picking. It doesn't matter if it is pre-season you want to win and it isn't like they picked Severson, they picked guys that could use the practice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mfitz804 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 17 minutes ago, NJDfan1711 said: What am I overthinking? I just thought the point of a pre-season game/exhibition shootout was to evaluate your new talent. Our 19 year old sniped the “winning” goal. That was pretty helpful in evaluating his talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, NJDfan1711 said: Yeah I'm all for building momentum and good morale I suppose, but your last part is essentially my point...you don't get points for pre-season wins lol. Not complaining in the least, I'm juts kind of curious why the young guys didn't get a look. If it was me, I'm saying to them "hey guys, here's a great opportunity with no pressure to get used to the shootout at the NHL level - go get 'em and have some fun" I get what you're trying to say but at the same time it's important to know that coaches are picking guys in shootouts based on how they do in practice. And i mean... Holtz is kind of pretty new and he went haha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagknife Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 31 minutes ago, lazer said: Okay… I have absolutely no idea what this means…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 8 minutes ago, jagknife said: Okay… I have absolutely no idea what this means…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunninWithTheDevil Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 Hey being the guy who posts irrelevant GIFs is my gig, back off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nicomo Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 fvcking Christ what nightmare fuel are you unleashing onto this thread?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 25 minutes ago, Nicomo said: fvcking Christ what nightmare fuel are you unleashing onto this thread?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 (edited) Re: Palms, not like Fitz didn’t want him back…they did talk. I just don’t think that Fitz wanted him for more than a year, maybe two at absolute most…and when Palms’ camp clearly wanted something longer term, that was that…both parties moved on and never looked back. You can probably argue that money that had been budgeted for Palms was first offered to Saad, then Tatar (though I’m guessing Saad was offered more, in terms of money and term). BUT, if you think about it, not signing Palms long-term and having kids to fill spots is EXACTLY the ideal model to follow...there will always be exceptions to the rule and some guys you keep, but in a perfect world, you're turning over 30+ year-old players who are about to be overpaid (or are being paid for what they were as opposed to what they are or will be), and replacing them with young, affordable talent from within, who will be giving you their most cost-effective years. The Palms of the past five seasons was worth his cost. Not so sure the Islanders will be able to say the same. Edited September 30, 2021 by Colorado Rockies 1976 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDfan1711 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 10 hours ago, NJDevils1214 said: Im pretty sure the average age of the guys we put in the SO was like 20. Who else would you have wanted to see? I get what you are saying I just think it is nit-picking. It doesn't matter if it is pre-season you want to win and it isn't like they picked Severson, they picked guys that could use the practice. We went with Nico, Sharangovich, and someone else who was a regular last year (can't remember who it was) - guys who have already had real world experience in the shootout. Why not go with, I dunno, Foote? Zetterlund? Clarke? Mercer? (I realize Holtz eventually got a crack, which is great, but he didn't get out there til like the 5th or 6th guy, only because the shootout went kinda long) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crisis Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 20 minutes ago, NJDfan1711 said: We went with Nico, Sharangovich, and someone else who was a regular last year (can't remember who it was) - guys who have already had real world experience in the shootout. Why not go with, I dunno, Foote? Zetterlund? Clarke? Mercer? (I realize Holtz eventually got a crack, which is great, but he didn't get out there til like the 5th or 6th guy, only because the shootout went kinda long) Preseason is also an opportunity for the guys who are going to the lion's share of chances to practice against real opposing goalies. I get what you're saying but the reason the teams agreed to the shootout after all preseason games is likely to get more realistic practice. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 42 minutes ago, NJDfan1711 said: We went with Nico, Sharangovich, and someone else who was a regular last year (can't remember who it was) - guys who have already had real world experience in the shootout. Why not go with, I dunno, Foote? Zetterlund? Clarke? Mercer? (I realize Holtz eventually got a crack, which is great, but he didn't get out there til like the 5th or 6th guy, only because the shootout went kinda long) Of course, if Ruff had gone that route, then I'm sure some fans would say "Why waste chances on guys who may not even make the team? We need the guys who are actually going to be taking the shots getting the attempts!" The very first preseason game...I can't make that big of a deal out of who was given tacked-on SO opportunities. Not knocking you specifically, I'm sure others feel the same, but this does really feel like nitpicking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dan 56 Posted September 30, 2021 Author Share Posted September 30, 2021 It was mentioned on Twitter that Sharangovich at 23 was our oldest goal scorer last night. Not bad at all 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 11 hours ago, RunninWithTheDevil said: Hey being the guy who posts irrelevant GIFs is my gig, back off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pumpkin cutter Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 Gonna be that downer, but I hope no kid makes the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 Mercer, Hughes, Dawson and Sharangovich looked good last night. They all created chances and looked like they belonged. Really like Holtz's shot and I like Dawson's all-around game. Nico had a rough start but got better as the game went on. He was noticeably better in the third period than the previous 2. I wasn't impressed by either Vesey or Jankowski. I really don't see it happening with Foote. With all the good he does his skating is so poor that it brings down whatever positives he brings. Our entire D-corps stunk last night. Ditto for our special teams. Nass and Recchi should be gone from behind the bench sooner rather than later. I am ready to write off Walsh at this point and I just don't think Bahl will get any better. I thought Bernier did alright. Can't blame him for the 4 goals with the exception of maybe the last one. Daws looked great in the shootout and it was nice to see us win one, even if it didn't count. Johnsson is a bit of an enigma with me. On one hand I am almost ready to launch him into the sun, but on the other hand I would like to see him with better linemates than a guy on PTO and another guy who is a 5-time "rookie" camp attendee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, DevsMan84 said: Johnsson is a bit of an enigma with me. On one hand I am almost ready to launch him into the sun, but on the other hand I would like to see him with better linemates than a guy on PTO and another guy who is a 5-time "rookie" camp attendee. Did I hear correctly that he is now Johnsson with a J instead of “Yonsson”? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Ottawa Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 1 hour ago, pumpkin cutter said: Gonna be that downer, but I hope no kid makes the team. Mercer is an overage junior. What could he possibly gain by more time in the minors? Holtz maybe too young though. We don't want to 'Montreal' his development. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 1 hour ago, pumpkin cutter said: Gonna be that downer, but I hope no kid makes the team. Most of our roster are kids, from my perspective. 9 minutes ago, Rob_Ottawa said: Mercer is an overage junior. What could he possibly gain by more time in the minors? Correct, he will be 20 in less than a month. I guess it was just fun to watch these guys, they both played very well, showed excellent scoring ability, etc. I know it makes sense to have them develop more in the AHL. Can we do that "look at them for 9 games" thing like in previous years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pumpkin cutter Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 29 minutes ago, Rob_Ottawa said: Mercer is an overage junior. What could he possibly gain by more time in the minors? Holtz maybe too young though. We don't want to 'Montreal' his development. i thought mercer was ahl eligible. if not then that changes things. mfitz, i should have said babies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerrydevil Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 18 hours ago, Nicomo said: Kind of wish Holtz went with #88 though. 10 is kind of boring. Makes me think of Eric Rasmussen or something lol. It wasn't boring when Pavel Bure wore it! That was some kind of shot last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aylbert Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 58 minutes ago, Jerrydevil said: It wasn't boring when Pavel Bure wore it! That was some kind of shot last night. "What shot?" -Zach Fucale, Washington Capitals Goalie 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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