Triumph Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 17 minutes ago, Devilsfan118 said: I've never seen a guy cling to AHL fodder like Hynes - I get that you need 'grit' in your lineup but dressing guys like Hayden and Rooney is just.. it's really inexcusable. You don't watch the rest of the league. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, Devilsfan118 said: I've never seen a guy cling to AHL fodder like Hynes - I get that you need 'grit' in your lineup but dressing guys like Hayden and Rooney is just.. it's really inexcusable. It's not even dressing them...every coach dresses their vet fourth liners that fans don't like. It's when he employs them that's truly mind-boggling. Just keep throwing them out there at the end of every period predictably, every coach will RUN their first line on the ice all the time. Go ahead and run them out there after every PP when teams are going to use their top offensive players who usually don't kill penalties. Straight bonehead stuff. Putting them out there for a defensive draw at the end of the second period against the Giroux line when you have the last change was mind-bogglingly airhead managing even for Hynes. Edited November 2, 2019 by NJDevs4978 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satans Hockey Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 Hopefully we'll come back from this 5 game road trip without this coaching staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicomo Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 Losing faith in Shero by the day... I don’t see why Fitz can’t just step in as interim coach. Send a message to the team and the fans that losing at such an alarming rate is unacceptable. There’s going to be a lot of apathetic Devils fans very soon if this continues. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 24 minutes ago, Nicomo said: Losing faith in Shero by the day... I don’t see why Fitz can’t just step in as interim coach. Send a message to the team and the fans that losing at such an alarming rate is unacceptable. There’s going to be a lot of apathetic Devils fans very soon if this continues. All Ray needs to do is call me. I promise you guys I’ll let Boqvist play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicomo Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 10 minutes ago, mfitz804 said: All Ray needs to do is call me. I promise you guys I’ll let Boqvist play. We could use you in net as well. Player/coach, like Reggie Dunlop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 21 minutes ago, Nicomo said: We could use you in net as well. Player/coach, like Reggie Dunlop. I still have sick hand eye coordination, but at 43, my splits leave something to be desired. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satans Hockey Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 Tick tock Ray, time to clear house. When they come back from this road trip they should all be gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 There are some legitimate concerns with how the team is playing. Last two games they played well but even at their best, even when dominating they look a bit chaotic out there. The defensive pairs often look out of sync with each other and the forwards, PK Subban, and others, are doing something different with their play every game, and as games go into the third period and opponents pick it up, we don't seem to have any answers. It's a little weird Hynes has resorted to showing them inspirational videos of Rory Mcilroy, it's almost an admission that you're out of answers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NQDevil Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Seems to have turned it around a bit? What's he done? Devils have looked mostly good of late, maybe it just took only average goaltending to rescue the team.Special mention to Miles Wood too, who's started to bring some of those unique qualities back to the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagknife Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, NQDevil said: Seems to have turned it around a bit? What's he done? Devils have looked mostly good of late, maybe it just took only average goaltending to rescue the team. Special mention to Miles Wood too, who's started to bring some of those unique qualities back to the game. So if you listen to certain players, a lot say road trips bring the team closer together since they're around one another a lot more compared to being at home when everyone is with their families and doing their own thing. This could very well be the case with this team where a road trip could finally bring them together. That being said, I'm not willing to turn down the heat on any of our coaches just yet, we had a 4 game winning streak to open last year and we faded away very fast. I'm hopeful as any fan would be that this is going to become the norm, but I'm very very cautious to say we're out of the woods with this squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NQDevil Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 So if you listen to certain players, a lot say road trips bring the team closer together since they're around one another a lot more compared to being at home when everyone is with their families and doing their own thing. This could very well be the case with this team where a road trip could finally bring them together. That being said, I'm not willing to turn down the heat on any of our coaches just yet, we had a 4 game winning streak to open last year and we faded away very fast. I'm hopeful as any fan would be that this is going to become the norm, but I'm very very cautious to say we're out of the woods with this squad. Ah that's interesting. One of the things that struck me when I read some Athletic season preview stuff was how much the other NHL coaches rate Hynes. It'd be a shame to never see what he can do with a really talented roster, hope they keep this run together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagknife Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 1 minute ago, NQDevil said: Ah that's interesting. One of the things that struck me when I read some Athletic season preview stuff was how much the other NHL coaches rate Hynes. It'd be a shame to never see what he can do with a really talented roster, hope they keep this run together. I find Hynes has two big flaws: 1.) Blind freaking loyalty to a system. Be it loyalty to a guy who clearly cannot manage a defensive strategy in Nasraddine, to his own failure to adapt to the game at hand, Hynes is too loyal (maybe wrong word) and seems to not change his thinking well, if at all. 2.) His asset management is suspect. His lineup decisions sometimes pay way off, such as recently or during the heater early-mid season two years ago when we made the playoffs but others are terrible. It flows from my previous point but he doesn't handle matchups well at all and his "lets throw the lines in a blender" crap when things are going well is very frustrating to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevils1214 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 11 minutes ago, jagknife said: I find Hynes has two big flaws: 1.) Blind freaking loyalty to a system. Be it loyalty to a guy who clearly cannot manage a defensive strategy in Nasraddine, to his own failure to adapt to the game at hand, Hynes is too loyal (maybe wrong word) and seems to not change his thinking well, if at all. 2.) His asset management is suspect. His lineup decisions sometimes pay way off, such as recently or during the heater early-mid season two years ago when we made the playoffs but others are terrible. It flows from my previous point but he doesn't handle matchups well at all and his "lets throw the lines in a blender" crap when things are going well is very frustrating to me. He holds guys like Rooney with "compete" way too high. When Bratt comes back Rooney better find his way out of the lineup and shuffle things accordingly. Something like this? I am not good at this sort of thing. Goose gets sheltered and Coleman's offense is a bit wasted on that line but it still carries the "energy" Hynes wants but with more skill and responsible players. AKA Not Rooney. Hall/Hughes/Palms Zacha/Nico/Bratt Goose/Zajac/Boqvist Wood/Coleman/Simmonds 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crisis Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 1 hour ago, NQDevil said: Seems to have turned it around a bit? What's he done? Devils have looked mostly good of late, maybe it just took only average goaltending to rescue the team. Special mention to Miles Wood too, who's started to bring some of those unique qualities back to the game. Found the Hynes burner account. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NQDevil Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Found the Hynes burner account. Yeah when it starts going really well I'm going to swap all the letters around for the wrong ones so it becomes totally unintelligible. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils01 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 12 hours ago, NJDevils1214 said: He holds guys like Rooney with "compete" way too high. When Bratt comes back Rooney better find his way out of the lineup and shuffle things accordingly. Something like this? I am not good at this sort of thing. Goose gets sheltered and Coleman's offense is a bit wasted on that line but it still carries the "energy" Hynes wants but with more skill and responsible players. AKA Not Rooney. Hall/Hughes/Palms Zacha/Nico/Bratt Goose/Zajac/Boqvist Wood/Coleman/Simmonds I like those lines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guadana Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 I don’t think there is a chance Zajac and goose would click. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muevelos Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 On 11/7/2019 at 12:58 PM, NJDevils1214 said: He holds guys like Rooney with "compete" way too high. When Bratt comes back Rooney better find his way out of the lineup and shuffle things accordingly. Something like this? I am not good at this sort of thing. Goose gets sheltered and Coleman's offense is a bit wasted on that line but it still carries the "energy" Hynes wants but with more skill and responsible players. AKA Not Rooney. Hall/Hughes/Palms Zacha/Nico/Bratt Goose/Zajac/Boqvist Wood/Coleman/Simmonds you do realize Rooney is the only player in the league with over 100 minutes logged and hasn't given up a goal. Yeah he doesn't score but he's doing something else better than pretty much anyone else on the team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 True about Rooney - the only player with at least 100 minutes of TOI (usually that's about 9/10 games for a 4th line player) and not a single goal against at 5v5. 4th line players aren't on the ice enough to allow many goals - but it's been a good run nonetheless, and he stands alone with zero against. Rooney isn't the best 4th line player we've ever seen, but he's a solid one - and has enough speed to make things look okay next to Miles Wood. The one criticism could be that Wood-Rooney-Hayden, as a trio, hasn't generated enough offensive chances relative to their opponents (a difficult criticism of a fourth line to be fair) but Wood-Rooney-Simmonds, with a small sample size of 22:16 TOI at 5v5 has a CF% of 56.82 or 25-19 shots attempts for vs. against. That combination seems to be a good fourth line- though, Simmonds isn't necessarily a fourth liner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils Pride 26 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Can we get someone in here who can establish a Dzone coverage? Good grief. A forecheck would be nice too but let’s take baby steps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagknife Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 4 hours ago, CarterforPresident said: you do realize Rooney is the only player in the league with over 100 minutes logged and hasn't given up a goal. Yeah he doesn't score but he's doing something else better than pretty much anyone else on the team You're one of the guys from Devils Insiders, aren't you? or you just follow them? Either way, I had no clue. I withdraw some of my Rooney bitching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted November 9, 2019 Author Share Posted November 9, 2019 The tanking Dolphins play with more inspiration than this team. The season is over thanks to Shero’s stubborn attachment to this abortion of a coaching staff. Fire Hynes or don’t. Who cares, we’re the laughing stock of the league. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Yeah, it's time to bring down the axe. It'd be one thing if it was just bad goaltending and we had a bunch of those 7-6 games. But we're terrible at scoring and generating offense - that's really not excusable. The not "gelling" thing was cute a few weeks ago - now, with little improvement to be seen, there's not any real way to defend Hynes. Losing the third period shot attempts battle tonight when you desperately need goals - just no good. The thing is, when the guy is putting out lines like Zacha-Hughes-Gusev and Boqvist-Hughes-Bratt, it's almost like he's been told his job isn't under threat. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muevelos Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 3 hours ago, jagknife said: You're one of the guys from Devils Insiders, aren't you? or you just follow them? Either way, I had no clue. I withdraw some of my Rooney bitching. Not saying he's our best player, he isn't, but he isn't close to the list of problems we have. We have probably 99 problems and he ain't one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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